From: Ignoramus8345 on
On 2010-03-26, J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> wrote:
>>> OK, maybe I am a little stupid, but if Ubuntu is based on Debian, how
>>> can it be less stable than Debian?
>>>
>> cos its based on debian unstable?
>
> As far as I understand, it is specifically a snapshot of
> Debian "testing".
>
> Debian unstable which is less "stable" than testing is
> officially known as sid "still in development".

OK, great summary. Thanks. I bought a laptop hard drive and will
install Debian Lenny on it just to see how well it works and how
compatible it is with my admin scripts. Having it on a new hard drive
will let me keep my current Ubuntu install.

I will see then how old the packages are and what are the limitations.


> Overall, I really only run Mint now on my main desktop
> rather than Debian is because of the newer versions of
> the software.

But is Mint free of the same annoying bugs?

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From: Rui Maciel on
Ignoramus8345 wrote:

> Do you run it daily? Is it stable?

I run it as my main DE and although it isn't perfectly stable (there's at least the dreaded
"holes in the windows" bug which manifests itself rather frequently and it's always
noticeable) I do believe it's strong points overcome by far any shortcoming it may have.

And KDE is under active development. Those kinks will surely go away with time.


Rui Maciel
From: Ignoramus8345 on
On 2010-03-26, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc(a)launchmodem.com> wrote:
>> I use Linux to conduct my entire digital life, I do not dual boot, it
>> is not a play project for me. I live, breathe, and make money with
>> Linux. And I want it to work instead of being a game of chance. At
>> this point I am considering to maybe switch to CentOS, at least for
>> the laptop.
>
> You have a LOT of options, with Linux.
>

That's what I am trying to figure out, what option can I use to get
something relatively bug free. I want to play sound, flash, use user
switching and network manager where appropriate.

I have downloaded CentOS and Debian Lenny and will try them in appx 10
days. I have a big trip coming up and do not want to break anything
right now.

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From: The Natural Philosopher on
Ignoramus8345 wrote:
> On 2010-03-26, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>>> On 2010-03-26, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Debian stable lenny is pretty good for me.
>>>>
>>>> I've used backports to get the latest kernel, virtual box and open office.
>>>>
>>>> Slightly peeved that Firefox latest is not there. Compiled that
>>>>
>>>> Got some screen bugs with Firfox/iceweasel/GTK not playing nice/.
>>>>
>>>> Runs broadcom wireless OK.
>>>>
>>>> cant answer for USB sticks: they self mount ..never tried them on fstab.
>>>>
>>>> DVB is a tad flakey - have to use totem Xine, and had trouble getting
>>>> stable WMV plugin Think its xlc or something.
>>>>
>>>> But its pretty stable now.
>>>>
>>> I will install Debian Lenny 5.0.4 somewhere and will report results.
>>>
>>> I assume that I can just upgrade it with apt-get and then get new
>>> release with some shell command. Right?
>>>
>> Do you mean upgrade FROM ubuntu, or upgrade it from a fresh install of
>> itself?
>
> I mean upgrade from a fresh install of itself.
>

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade.

>>> It has Network Manager?
>>>
>> Probably. If by that you mean a windows like GUI that allows you to
>> manually connect to WiFi.
>
> To wifi, and to wireless broadband and modems.
>
>> I have to say, I junked it in favour of a 'connect at boot time' script..
>
> connect at boot time does not work for me -- I use too many different
> ways of connecting.
>

Fairy Nuff.

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From: The Natural Philosopher on
Ignoramus8345 wrote:
> On 2010-03-26, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc(a)launchmodem.com> wrote:
>>> I use Linux to conduct my entire digital life, I do not dual boot, it
>>> is not a play project for me. I live, breathe, and make money with
>>> Linux. And I want it to work instead of being a game of chance. At
>>> this point I am considering to maybe switch to CentOS, at least for
>>> the laptop.
>> You have a LOT of options, with Linux.
>>
>
> That's what I am trying to figure out, what option can I use to get
> something relatively bug free. I want to play sound, flash, use user
> switching and network manager where appropriate.
>

Looks like lenny should do all that.

You will have to log in and out of the default desktop manager to switch
users.


> I have downloaded CentOS and Debian Lenny and will try them in appx 10
> days. I have a big trip coming up and do not want to break anything
> right now.
>
> i