From: George Kerby on



On 5/29/10 10:06 PM, in article vgl306ds3j68k6f57fjojtqe1siqctesou(a)4ax.com,
"John Navas" <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 May 2010 17:23:37 -0700, John Higdon <higgy(a)kome.com> wrote
> in <higgy-B3D477.17233729052010(a)news.announcetech.com>:
>
>> In article <gra306tt5ajij49hva3th21rkmsv29805e(a)4ax.com>,
>> John Navas <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your concern, but I get out quite often,
>>> and that's not what I would call a major business app.
>>
>> What do you define as a "major business app"? If ProTools, a pricy but
>> highly respected and powerful application employed in recording and
>> broadcast facilities worldwide (businesses all), an application that has
>> touched just about everything you hear on radio, television, commercial
>> recordings, and the movies is not "a major business" app, then I needn't
>> waste any more time naming things that you would not "call a major
>> business app".
>
> What do you have to back that up?
> None of the several audio professionals or businesses I know use it.

That's because you don't really know any professionals.

From: George Kerby on



On 5/29/10 10:18 PM, in article 46m306hu9hoecuqt7vr0ks3g8l11a0li5d(a)4ax.com,
"John Navas" <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 May 2010 20:09:22 -0700, John Higdon <higgy(a)kome.com> wrote
> in <higgy-776D21.20092229052010(a)news.announcetech.com>:
>
>> In article <vgl306ds3j68k6f57fjojtqe1siqctesou(a)4ax.com>,
>> John Navas <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you have to back that up?
>>> None of the several audio professionals or businesses I know use it.
>>
>> As I say, you need to get out more.
>
> 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence,
> whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'

"F.O.A.D."

--Anny Nomis

From: John Navas on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 20:20:58 -0700, John Higdon <higgy(a)kome.com> wrote
in <higgy-F72A48.20205829052010(a)news.announcetech.com>:

>In article <290520102002477445%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > Network authentication and policies are, and they're entirely missing from
>> > Apple.
>>
>> that's there too.
>
>You bet. Since the Mac rides on top of FreeBSD, anything available for
>Unix is available for the Mac. I have a system that networks four
>ProTools workstations together using nothing but OS utilities, shell
>scripts, and Perl. Rather than being an Apple activity, it became a Unix
>exercise.
>
>Try that on Windows sometime.

Windows tools abound.

--
Best regards,
John

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
From: John Navas on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 20:30:52 -0700, John Higdon <higgy(a)kome.com> wrote
in <higgy-57C662.20305229052010(a)news.announcetech.com>:

>In article <46m306hu9hoecuqt7vr0ks3g8l11a0li5d(a)4ax.com>,
> John Navas <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence,
>> whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'
>
>You can sure dish it out but you can't take it at all, can you? I have
>been in the audio business for over forty years. I don't know several
>audio production businesses; I know hundreds. All of the broadcasters
>who do heavy enough work to warrant it use ProTools. Same goes for the
>production studios I have worked with, network operations, movie
>studios...just about anyone who does multitrack audio production.
>
>Not everyone uses it since it isn't cheap, and it has a steep learning
>curve. But it is the industry's foremost digital audio workstation.
>There are many thousands of them throughout the audio world.
>
>Google is your friend if you want evidence.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

--
Best regards,
John

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do iFans keep making excuses for it?
From: SMS on
On 29/05/10 11:17 PM, John Higdon wrote:
> In article<4c01f3d1$0$1613$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>,
> SMS<scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> They used to take the P2 cards from the Panasonic studio
>> cameras and stick them directly into the Mac Books and start editing
>> on-site, until Apple dropped the CardBus slot from the Macs.
>
> Some studios do pretty much the same thing only with hard drives pulled
> from a Red camera. The drive is copied into the server (that has
> something like 42 TB on line), and then go to work on the FCP
> workstations. Pretty impressive to see it all go.

But the big advantage of Final Cut and an older MacBook was that you
could immediately look at the results out in the field and begin
editing, which was very useful when you were not shooting in a studio,
but out in the field.