From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Do you understand that, Peter?
>
> As usual, long before you mentioned it.

So why do you choose to sneer at me as you do? And also to deny that
which you claim to have understood?

Why, in short, do such claims made by you always contradict the evidence
I see?

> Everything I mentioned stands. But it appears quite clear that you have
> never had to use Imperial measurements in real life, except in a
> microscopic way. And that your ability to do reality checks is seriously
> impaired.

<sigh>

Peter, you really should stop sneering so much.

Your claims are frankly lunatic - the usual ignorant sneering
dismsisiveness.

And completely wrong - as usual.

For example: you made the gross error of sneering at me on the grounds
that I've never had to use Imperial units in real life, except in a
microscopic way.

I've done bloody real bloody engineering using Imperial units, sonny
boy. You bloody well haven't - you've just been an ignorant warehouse
skivvy being confused because he can't do mental arithmetic very well.

Any time I've been working at the microscopic (or electron microscopic)
scale, I've used SI.

It's clear that you're just sneering at me for the sake of putting me
down because you enjoy it.

Now, Peter, please stop it with your personal abuse directed at me.
It's not welcome in this technical newsgroup.

Have you got that?

Thank you.

Rowland.

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Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> > Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > > > I have nothing against the Scottish accents, in fact I rather like them,
> > > > but not time after time after time in every programme.
> > >
> > > Could be worse, they could all be fron Newcastle.
> >
> > Yers - at least ordinary human beings can understand Scottish accents.
>
> At TVS both the general manager and the shop steward were Glaswegians. When
> they were argueing with each other you needed sub-titles to follow the row.

Yeah, but if *I* were to speak to a Glaswegian in a steady frame of
mind, I'd've had no trouble understanding him - as with most
non-Glaswegians (the buggers know that the accent's a bother and they
can all turn it down a bit if they want to). That is, until he started
on the bloody place names, none of which sound the way they're spelt...

> > Drunken Geordies hitting the local dialect *hard* can end up
> > incomprehensible to each other. I have witnessed this - the problem is
> > a lot of the dialect is *very* local, you see.
> >
>
> Bit like Schweitzerdeutch?

<heh>

Nope, nothing like that. That's only an issue for German nationals
because Germans don't understand the concept of dialect. If it deviates
*at all* from `the one true standard form of German', they can't
understand it (or so it seems at times...).

I've even read an `English for Germans' thingy that explained that us
Brits tend to make the error of thinking that we speak the same language
as Americans, which error causes us problems when we visit the USA.

Actually, the error we make is assuming that because *WE* can understand
most English dialects, then so can Americans. But they can't.

And the Germans make the error of failing to comprehend the distinction
between language and dialect - mistakenly and snootily sneering at *OUR*
ignorance while displaying their own...

Rowland.
(who did his school German lessons alongside a peer who spoke Swiss
German quite fluently. His name was Harun, just to make things really
obvious.)

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Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> > [snip]
>
> > > I presented a programme on "Resonance FM"
> >
> > <http://resonancefm.com/faq>
> >
> > Interesting sounding station - although that address:
> >
> > "144 Borough High Street, London SE1 1LB,"
> >
> > Makes 'em sure to be a bunch of crooks[1]. Me, biased due to having
> > been brought up in the leafy suburbs of NW London? Surely not?
>
> That's the registered office address,

/Definitely/ crooks. ;-)

>the studio was in Denmark Street
> until my series ended and the roof fell in.

Were the two events linked?

Rowland.

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From: Adrian Tuddenham on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> > > [snip]
> >
> > > > I presented a programme on "Resonance FM"
> > >
> > > <http://resonancefm.com/faq>
> > >
> > > Interesting sounding station - although that address:
> > >
> > > "144 Borough High Street, London SE1 1LB,"
> > >
> > > Makes 'em sure to be a bunch of crooks[1]. Me, biased due to having
> > > been brought up in the leafy suburbs of NW London? Surely not?
> >
> > That's the registered office address,
>
> /Definitely/ crooks. ;-)
>
> >the studio was in Denmark Street
> > until my series ended and the roof fell in.
>
> Were the two events linked?

Not as far as I can tell.

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From: Chris Holland on
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:40:28 +0000, Rowland McDonnell wrote:
> Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you understand that, Peter?
>>
>> As usual, long before you mentioned it.
>
> So why do you choose to sneer at me as you do? And also to deny that
> which you claim to have understood?

What do you mean? I don't understand.

>
> Why, in short, do such claims made by you always contradict the evidence
> I see?

Because you are nuts?

>
>> Everything I mentioned stands. But it appears quite clear that you have
>> never had to use Imperial measurements in real life, except in a
>> microscopic way. And that your ability to do reality checks is seriously
>> impaired.
>
> <sigh>
>
> Peter, you really should stop sneering so much.
>
> Your claims are frankly lunatic - the usual ignorant sneering
> dismsisiveness.

Sneer, sneer.

>
> And completely wrong - as usual.
>
> For example: you made the gross error of sneering at me on the grounds
> that I've never had to use Imperial units in real life, except in a
> microscopic way.
>
> I've done bloody real bloody engineering using Imperial units, sonny
> boy. You bloody well haven't - you've just been an ignorant warehouse
> skivvy being confused because he can't do mental arithmetic very well.

Sonny boy? Peter will drop his pipe when he sees that.

>
> Any time I've been working at the microscopic (or electron microscopic)
> scale, I've used SI.
>
> It's clear that you're just sneering at me for the sake of putting me
> down because you enjoy it.

You say that like it's something bad.

>
> Now, Peter, please stop it with your personal abuse directed at me.
> It's not welcome in this technical newsgroup.
>
> Have you got that?

Pete apologizes for his sneering behavior.

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