From: J. J. Lodder on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > > Now, it's measured in wavelengths of light from a Helium-Neon laser.
> > > However long that might be. All I know is that it's kind of *that* long.
> >
> > Obsolete too.
> > The metre is nowadays the 1/299 792 458th part (light)second,
>
> No; that's why I said 'measured'. You've given the *definition*, but in
> practice the measurement is done by interference using a helium-neon
> laser.
>
> Actually, I use a tape measure. But the helium-neon thing is the
> standard for calibration.

It's not the metre, only a secondary standard approximating it.
No different in principle from your tape measure,
just some steps closer to the real thing,

Jan

From: J. J. Lodder on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:05:43 +0100, nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
> Lodder) wrote:
>
>
> >Real life is much harder,
> ><http://www.encyclopedia.com/video/GiQGx-XpN7E-mammoet-transport-paalweg
> >-urmond.aspx>
>
> What a beautiful piece of kit. That said, it seems that a bit of damp
> can slow it up a bit. [1] ;-(
> >
> >It will be used to ride out U-864, if all goes well,
>
> Is this still the recovery plan do you know?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUy0laGmLTQ&feature=related

That's the idea.
Parliament still has to approve though.

> I like the way the 'soft jaws' extend from the grab when picking up
> the sub (I was thinking as the grab came over the sub "what stops the
> grab damaging the sub and potentially making matters worse". ;-)
>
> At the end when the first half goes into the storage unit, what
> happens to it next (or is that the end, entombment)?

Both halves are to be salvaged. That's what the other shed is for.

> What's your involvement in all of this if you don't mind me asking
> Jan?

Just curious,

Jan
From: Peter Ceresole on
J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> It's not the metre, only a secondary standard approximating it.
> No different in principle from your tape measure,
> just some steps closer to the real thing,

Yes. Hence 'measured' rather than 'defined'.
--
Peter
From: Pd on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> > Or indeed, unless you're talking about the Indian inch, which is about
> > 0.02539997 metres.
[...]
> Your claims are only true if you use a very loose and woolly definition
> of `now' that includes centuries past in your definition of `now'.

I'd be willing to bet money that somebody in India right *now* is using
a measuring stick/tape/pigeon marked out in Indian inches to mark out a
plot for building.

--
Pd
From: Phil Taylor on
In article <1jfyex7.nf1nxnmzroyN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>, Pd
<peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
> > > Or indeed, unless you're talking about the Indian inch, which is about
> > > 0.02539997 metres.
> [...]
> > Your claims are only true if you use a very loose and woolly definition
> > of `now' that includes centuries past in your definition of `now'.
>
> I'd be willing to bet money that somebody in India right *now* is using
> a measuring stick/tape/pigeon marked out in Indian inches to mark out a
> plot for building.

How could you tell? By your own figures the difference is about 30 nM.
I really doubt that any measuring instrument used by a builder could
demonstrate that sort of accuracy.

Phil Taylor