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From: Kevin Nathan on 12 Oct 2009 11:49 On 11 Oct 2009 21:06:33 GMT ray <ray(a)zianet.com> wrote: >I don't think it would be that difficult to take everything he's done >and convert it to java - but he's not willing to give me access to the >source code to do that. So, in the meantime, I make do - and work on >my own program a little at a time. Like you, I am fairly busy but would be willing to look at what you have and what more you need the program to do, to see if I could help you at all. But it's up to you, of course. :-) -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline) Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae 8:46am up 2 days 14:20, 35 users, load average: 0.35, 0.33, 0.33
From: Paul J Gans on 12 Oct 2009 12:35 Van Chocstraw <boobooililililil(a)roadrunner.com> wrote: >Using Windows in a virtual machine is the easiest if you absolutely, >positively can't find a Linux alternative or really need to do something >the Windows way. (just ignore my user agent, it does that in a virtual >machine on Linux) Yes, but then you need to buy a copy of a Windows OS. -- --- Paul J. Gans
From: Hans on 10 Nov 2009 05:07 Darrell Stec wrote: > propman inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips:: > >> Darrell Stec wrote: >>> Van Chocstraw inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips:: >>> >>>> houghi wrote: >>>>> ray wrote: >>>>>> Certainly - it's often more complicated. But that's how you get >>>>>> started. Did that with chairgun, then chased down two or three dll's >>>>>> that had to be added. >>>>> I never had the need for Wine. I have the following order in which I >>>>> would run Windows programs. >>>>> 1) Look for an alternative that runs nativaly under Linux >>>>> 2) Look if I realy need the program and retry step 1. >>>>> 3) Use a dedicated Windows machine >>>>> 4) Use a Virtual Manager >>>>> 5) Use dualboot >>>>> 6) Use Wine >>>>> >>>>> This means that I would need to look at the function of the program >>>>> (e.g. I want to write letters and send them to others as an attachment) >>>>> and not at the program itself (I want to use Word) >>>>> This also means that I would need to look at the cost. If I can not be >>>>> botherd by paying the price for an official version of Windows AND the >>>>> price for the program, then I realy do not need that program. >>>>> It can even mean that I must need add the price of a computer (Step 1) >>>>> >>>>> It could even be that I can not afford a second computer and I need the >>>>> Windows program so often and a VM does not work that I am running >>>>> Windows. Such is life. >>>>> >>>>> Now if I would want to run Office on a dedicated machine, my cheapest I >>>>> would need to pay for a new machine would be 411,90EUR (Including >>>>> 21%TVA) + 89EUR for Windows XP UK (So just 500 EUR) and 189 for the >>>>> Microsoft Office 2007 Basic OEM. So a total of 690EUR >>>>> http://www.alternate.be/html/tu.html?sc=-465587565 (Best press on >>>>> "Bewerken" if the layout is a bit daft.) >>>>> >>>>> That is everything, including 20" screen, mouse and keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> So what I want to say is that I would look at other options always >>>>> before looking at running things under Wine. The result is that I do >>>>> not use Wine. (To be honest, I never got beyond step 2). That is just >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>>> houghi >>>> Using Windows in a virtual machine is the easiest if you absolutely, >>>> positively can't find a Linux alternative or really need to do something >>>> the Windows way. (just ignore my user agent, it does that in a virtual >>>> machine on Linux) >>> The biggest problem on that is on new computers you get no operating >>> system disks, because they are installed on a hidden restoration >>> partition. >> FWIW, there is usually an option to burn a Recovery DVD or CD Recovery >> Disk set, which AFAIK, contain all the files located in the hidden >> partition. >> >> >>> sure someone has found a way around that, but so far I haven't found a >>> good alternative. >>> >> That said....at present time, I don't have the resources to see if the >> Recovery Disks will install to a VM (had to "donate" my openSUSE box to >> my wife). >> >> Again FWIW, there was an interesting recent thread in comp.os.linux.misc >> with the subject of "virtual machines". > > I've tried, but so far have been unsuccessful because there are multiple > disks. > Try: Windows_7_All_Versions_x86_And_x64_RETAiL_DVD-CLONE.5142059.TPB.torrent or Microsoft_Windows_7_Ultimate_Retail(Final)_x86_(32_bit)_and_x64.5136369.TPB.torrent
From: Darrell Stec on 11 Nov 2009 13:22 Hans inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips:: > Darrell Stec wrote: >> propman inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips:: >> >>> Darrell Stec wrote: >>>> Van Chocstraw inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips:: >>>> >>>>> houghi wrote: >>>>>> ray wrote: >>>>>>> Certainly - it's often more complicated. But that's how you get >>>>>>> started. Did that with chairgun, then chased down two or three dll's >>>>>>> that had to be added. >>>>>> I never had the need for Wine. I have the following order in which I >>>>>> would run Windows programs. >>>>>> 1) Look for an alternative that runs nativaly under Linux >>>>>> 2) Look if I realy need the program and retry step 1. >>>>>> 3) Use a dedicated Windows machine >>>>>> 4) Use a Virtual Manager >>>>>> 5) Use dualboot >>>>>> 6) Use Wine >>>>>> >>>>>> This means that I would need to look at the function of the program >>>>>> (e.g. I want to write letters and send them to others as an >>>>>> attachment) and not at the program itself (I want to use Word) >>>>>> This also means that I would need to look at the cost. If I can not >>>>>> be botherd by paying the price for an official version of Windows AND >>>>>> the price for the program, then I realy do not need that program. >>>>>> It can even mean that I must need add the price of a computer (Step >>>>>> 1) >>>>>> >>>>>> It could even be that I can not afford a second computer and I need >>>>>> the Windows program so often and a VM does not work that I am running >>>>>> Windows. Such is life. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now if I would want to run Office on a dedicated machine, my cheapest >>>>>> I would need to pay for a new machine would be 411,90EUR (Including >>>>>> 21%TVA) + 89EUR for Windows XP UK (So just 500 EUR) and 189 for the >>>>>> Microsoft Office 2007 Basic OEM. So a total of 690EUR >>>>>> http://www.alternate.be/html/tu.html?sc=-465587565 (Best press on >>>>>> "Bewerken" if the layout is a bit daft.) >>>>>> >>>>>> That is everything, including 20" screen, mouse and keyboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> So what I want to say is that I would look at other options always >>>>>> before looking at running things under Wine. The result is that I do >>>>>> not use Wine. (To be honest, I never got beyond step 2). That is just >>>>>> me. >>>>>> >>>>>> houghi >>>>> Using Windows in a virtual machine is the easiest if you absolutely, >>>>> positively can't find a Linux alternative or really need to do >>>>> something the Windows way. (just ignore my user agent, it does that in >>>>> a virtual machine on Linux) >>>> The biggest problem on that is on new computers you get no operating >>>> system disks, because they are installed on a hidden restoration >>>> partition. >>> FWIW, there is usually an option to burn a Recovery DVD or CD Recovery >>> Disk set, which AFAIK, contain all the files located in the hidden >>> partition. >>> >>> >>>> sure someone has found a way around that, but so far I haven't found a >>>> good alternative. >>>> >>> That said....at present time, I don't have the resources to see if the >>> Recovery Disks will install to a VM (had to "donate" my openSUSE box to >>> my wife). >>> >>> Again FWIW, there was an interesting recent thread in comp.os.linux.misc >>> with the subject of "virtual machines". >> >> I've tried, but so far have been unsuccessful because there are multiple >> disks. >> > > Try: > > Windows_7_All_Versions_x86_And_x64_RETAiL_DVD-CLONE.5142059.TPB.torrent > or > Microsoft_Windows_7_Ultimate_Retail(Final)_x86_(32_bit)_and_x64.5136369.TPB.torrent Thanks, but I suspect Microsoft feels there is a copyright infringement. At http://mininova.org I get this: Torrent not found... The torrent you requested (id: 3100690) does not exist in our database. This could mean that: * The torrent was old, and automatically removed by our system. This happens if no torrent activity is recorded for a while. * The torrent was removed by one of our moderators, for example because we received complaints from users. * We received a copyright takedown request, and removed the torrent in compliance with our copyright policy. The other link to both of these can be found at: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5136369/Microsoft_Windows_7_Ultimate_Retail%28Final%29_x86_%2832_bit%29_and_x64 That does not seem to be much of a solution unless I am missing something. Besides my system only has 1 GB RAM which is minimum for WinXP let alone Vista or Windows 7 which is merely a renamed Vista. -- Later, Darrell
From: Kevin Nathan on 11 Nov 2009 15:12
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:22:40 -0500 Darrell Stec <darstec(a)neo.rr.com> wrote: >That does not seem to be much of a solution unless I am missing >something. Besides my system only has 1 GB RAM which is minimum for >WinXP let alone Vista or Windows 7 which is merely a renamed Vista. > My older brother has been running Vista starting with 2GB RAM. He was having various problems (he actually calls Microsoft Support!) and the solution to at least one of the problems (an MS update not running to completion) was an increase to 4GB RAM at MS's suggestion. That fixed it and now he's pissed because the system doesn't ever get to even 2GB. Amazing lack of software engineering on Microsoft's part... :-) I am *so* glad I don't have to mess with those problems anymore! Computer life has been so much easier since dumping Windows back in 2000... ;-) -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline) Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-pae 1:04pm up 21 days 3:18, 38 users, load average: 0.67, 0.61, 0.56 |