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From: Woody on 2 Jun 2010 14:05 Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote: > > > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk>: > > > Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote: > > >> > We pay GoDaddy for domains and hosting. I create and manage the site > > >> > with iWeb, and find that *very* easy to do. > > >> > > > >> > If you're interested, it's here: > > >> > > > >> > <http://stmartinandstjohn.org/> > > >> > > >> Ouch. >750KB for one page, including nearly 300KB of JavaScript doing, > > >> as far as I can see, nothing. iWeb never ceases to impress me with > > >> the quality of its output. > > > > > > I presume the JavaScript is for things like the on-the-fly image > > > reflections. By the time you've created a few of those, you've made a > > > net saving. > > > > Admittedly I hadn't realised the images were reflected with JavaScript, > > but there is no way that would be 300KB -- a quick Google finds a jQuery > > plugin to do the same that's 2KB. What is the rest doing? Who knows. > > It seems to include the whole Prototype library, anyway, which I'm sure > > is greatly helpful. Perhaps there's jQuery in there too, and MooTools, > > just for good measure. > > > > Incidentally, the images themselves come to ~420KB. Does iWeb not have > > an option for compressing images for the web? > > No idea, it's using images dragged from the media view, from my Aperture > Library. > > Actually, you gave me an idea here. I went to check the image sizes, but > there doesn't seem to be an easy way to control that. While doing that I > turned off the reflections, and shadows, which I think may help. Another > thing I spotted was that the templates are using a Browser Background > image, as these pages are plain white, I switched them to colour fill > mode instead. That seems to have made a bit of difference, and they seem > to open much faster now. The images do seem really disproportionately huge, and very slow loading. -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Woody on 2 Jun 2010 14:05 SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote: > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > > > > I wouldn't attempt to try to recreate iWeb sites in RapidWeaver but I'd > > > guess there are themes which approximate those of iWeb. > > > > There are instructions for that, but it doesn't work very well at all. I > > have tried doing some copy/paste from iWeb, but graphics don't work at > > all, they just appear as 'pasted image'. > > > > Having played with all of them now, it seems that iWeb actually does > > more of what I need than anything else, albeit a little less 'standards > > compliant', but that seems easier to workaround than change to a new > > composer. > > I reckon moving sites from one template driven web authoring program to > another is, to paraphrase the dear leader, a bag of hurt. I would say so, there is no real way of doing it from template site, unless there is an 'import from site' option in the destination package -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Andy Hewitt on 2 Jun 2010 17:05 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: [..] > > Actually, you gave me an idea here. I went to check the image sizes, but > > there doesn't seem to be an easy way to control that. While doing that I > > turned off the reflections, and shadows, which I think may help. Another > > thing I spotted was that the templates are using a Browser Background > > image, as these pages are plain white, I switched them to colour fill > > mode instead. That seems to have made a bit of difference, and they seem > > to open much faster now. > > The images do seem really disproportionately huge, and very slow > loading. The first image on the front page is a 172KB PNG file - huge? -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Pd on 2 Jun 2010 17:53 D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > I presume the JavaScript is for things like the on-the-fly image > reflections. What's with that whole reflection thing? In five years it will be regarded with the same level of affection as blinking, crawling marquees and flaming logos. I think it just distracts from the image displayed, and is purely "ooh, look what clever graphics programmers we are!" I blame Steve and his silly iConferenceTable reflections. -- Pd
From: Woody on 2 Jun 2010 18:25
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > >> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > > [..] >>> Actually, you gave me an idea here. I went to check the image sizes, > > > but >>> there doesn't seem to be an easy way to control that. While doing > > > that I >>> turned off the reflections, and shadows, which I think may help. > > > Another >>> thing I spotted was that the templates are using a Browser > > > Background >>> image, as these pages are plain white, I switched them to colour > > > fill >>> mode instead. That seems to have made a bit of difference, and they > > > seem >>> to open much faster now. >> >> The images do seem really disproportionately huge, and very slow >> loading. > > The first image on the front page is a 172KB PNG file - huge? Yes, massive. And why a png? Its a photograph, it should be a jpg. If I convert it to a jpeg at 25kB I can't tell the difference so it is at least 7 times bigger than it needs to be. When I load the page I can actually see it load, and that is on a broadband. The other graphics are similar. Means the site is really slow at loading for no reason. -- Woody |