From: Andy Hewitt on
Having noticed a few flaws in iWeb, I've been looking at the
alternatives. However, this has thus far proven to be a fruitless task.
It's also the only part of iLife I use now, so I'm looking futher ahead
too.

As far as iWeb goes, it actually does all *I* need it to. It's quick and
easy, and handles my multiple sites ever so well. Indeed, the only
issues I have are that it can be tricky to get to display right in IE8,
but I have found it can be worked around, and that text will not zoom in
Safari.

I bought RapidWeaver in one of the recent bundles, but that isn't so
easy to use, and in the main doesn't seem all that reliable either -
some stuff just doesn't work (blogs are a nightmare). I'd like to be
able to place images on a page, but that doesn't seem possible. Photo
galleries aren't anything like as flexible as iWeb either.

I was going to have a go at Freeway, but the Demo won't run as I tried
it a *long* time ago, and it thinks the demo I just download has
expired.

Then I thought I'd have a go at Sandvox, which seems to be the best
possibility. But again, it seems to just not be able to do some things -
such as adding a text box. All the supplied templates only have
horizontal menus, which has no advantage over iWeb's at all.

Thing is, I've got a mammoth task to port my existing sites from iWeb, I
need to be sure that I can make a good approximation of the sites I have
created in iWeb in order to justify the workload, and be sure that time
spent won't be wasted, as well as being sure that any extra cost will be
justified.

Is there *anything* that could replace iWeb, both at a similar cost, and
can match it for ease of use?

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: SM on
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:

> I bought RapidWeaver in one of the recent bundles, but that isn't so
> easy to use, and in the main doesn't seem all that reliable either -
> some stuff just doesn't work (blogs are a nightmare). I'd like to be
> able to place images on a page, but that doesn't seem possible. Photo
> galleries aren't anything like as flexible as iWeb either.

My partner uses a RW blog all the time with no problems - are you using
RW4?

When you say "place images" do you mean position accurately on a page or
put them in a page at all? If it's the former you could look at the
Blocks plug-in:
<http://www.yourhead.com/blocks/>

For flexible galleries see:
<http://www.barchard.net/projects/weaverpix/>

I wouldn't use RW without SiteMap:
<http://www.loghound.com/Sitemap/index.html>

Of course the cost of plug-ins begins to add up.

> Thing is, I've got a mammoth task to port my existing sites from iWeb, I
> need to be sure that I can make a good approximation of the sites I have
> created in iWeb in order to justify the workload, and be sure that time
> spent won't be wasted, as well as being sure that any extra cost will be
> justified.

I wouldn't attempt to try to recreate iWeb sites in RapidWeaver but I'd
guess there are themes which approximate those of iWeb.

Stuart
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From: Andy Hewitt on
SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
>
> > I bought RapidWeaver in one of the recent bundles, but that isn't so
> > easy to use, and in the main doesn't seem all that reliable either -
> > some stuff just doesn't work (blogs are a nightmare). I'd like to be
> > able to place images on a page, but that doesn't seem possible. Photo
> > galleries aren't anything like as flexible as iWeb either.
>
> My partner uses a RW blog all the time with no problems - are you using
> RW4?

Yes.

> When you say "place images" do you mean position accurately on a page or
> put them in a page at all? If it's the former you could look at the
> Blocks plug-in:
> <http://www.yourhead.com/blocks/>

The former. Much as I would in iWeb.

> For flexible galleries see:
> <http://www.barchard.net/projects/weaverpix/>
>
> I wouldn't use RW without SiteMap:
> <http://www.loghound.com/Sitemap/index.html>
>
> Of course the cost of plug-ins begins to add up.

Yeah, they do indeed. In fact it's a show stopper already. I'm actually
doing this for a church web site on a voluntary basis, and I'm footing
the bill for the software. I don't mind paying a small amount for
software that'll do what I need it to, but I can't afford to have this
keep adding up.

> > Thing is, I've got a mammoth task to port my existing sites from iWeb, I
> > need to be sure that I can make a good approximation of the sites I have
> > created in iWeb in order to justify the workload, and be sure that time
> > spent won't be wasted, as well as being sure that any extra cost will be
> > justified.
>
> I wouldn't attempt to try to recreate iWeb sites in RapidWeaver but I'd
> guess there are themes which approximate those of iWeb.

There are instructions for that, but it doesn't work very well at all. I
have tried doing some copy/paste from iWeb, but graphics don't work at
all, they just appear as 'pasted image'.

Having played with all of them now, it seems that iWeb actually does
more of what I need than anything else, albeit a little less 'standards
compliant', but that seems easier to workaround than change to a new
composer.

Cheers.

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: SM on
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:

> > I wouldn't attempt to try to recreate iWeb sites in RapidWeaver but I'd
> > guess there are themes which approximate those of iWeb.
>
> There are instructions for that, but it doesn't work very well at all. I
> have tried doing some copy/paste from iWeb, but graphics don't work at
> all, they just appear as 'pasted image'.
>
> Having played with all of them now, it seems that iWeb actually does
> more of what I need than anything else, albeit a little less 'standards
> compliant', but that seems easier to workaround than change to a new
> composer.

I reckon moving sites from one template driven web authoring program to
another is, to paraphrase the dear leader, a bag of hurt.

Stuart
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From: Andy Hewitt on
SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
>
> > > I wouldn't attempt to try to recreate iWeb sites in RapidWeaver but I'd
> > > guess there are themes which approximate those of iWeb.
> >
> > There are instructions for that, but it doesn't work very well at all. I
> > have tried doing some copy/paste from iWeb, but graphics don't work at
> > all, they just appear as 'pasted image'.
> >
> > Having played with all of them now, it seems that iWeb actually does
> > more of what I need than anything else, albeit a little less 'standards
> > compliant', but that seems easier to workaround than change to a new
> > composer.
>
> I reckon moving sites from one template driven web authoring program to
> another is, to paraphrase the dear leader, a bag of hurt.

Yup, it seems to be that way.

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
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