From: Pd on
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > I presume the JavaScript is for things like the on-the-fly image
> > > reflections.
> >
> > What's with that whole reflection thing? In five years it will be
> > regarded with the same level of affection as blinking, crawling marquees
> > and flaming logos. I think it just distracts from the image displayed,
> > and is purely "ooh, look what clever graphics programmers we are!"
> > I blame Steve and his silly iConferenceTable reflections.
>
> I think the reflections are pretty bitchin cool.

Yeah well, I'm doin' the bitchin'.

--
Pd
From: Woody on
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
>
>>>> If I convert it to a jpeg at 25kB I can't tell the difference so it
> > > > is
>>>> at least 7 times bigger than it needs to be. When I load the page I
> > > > can
>>>> actually see it load, and that is on a broadband.
>>>> The other graphics are similar. Means the site is really slow at
> > > > loading
>>>> for no reason.
>>>
>>> OK, fair enough. Not much I can do about that, it starts off as a
> > > JPG
>>> (well a Preview image in Aperture anyway), and in the context it
> > > should
>>> be much smaller, I agree.
>>
>> that sucks, iWeb is a lot worse than I thought then.
>
> Yeah, but at this moment, I'm kinda stuck with it, unless I can find a
> sensible way to migrate.
>
> The nearest I've come to it is with Flux 2, which I see is also now in
> a
> new bundle offer. That can actually work with an existing site (once
> published to a folder from iWeb). I did trial it a couple of days ago,
> but overall it didn't seem too dissimilar to iWeb, and I wasn't sure
> how
> much better it's code would be either. Would it be worth the workload
> to
> find the pages were just as slow and glitchy?

Obviously not a full conversion if it didn't give you better results,
but unless you are really pressed for time, do a couple of pages and
look at them in safaris web inspector to see if it is smaller.

--
Woody
From: Pd on
Mark <captain.black(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking of "magical" effects (and website design in general):
> <http://www.sarahjanenewbury.com/>

Aiieee! A warning might have been polite.

NSFE - Not Safe For Eyes.

Not so good for those with a weak stomach either.

--
Pd
From: Mark on
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:56:51 +0100, Pd wrote
(in article <1jji8wf.eqan4s1k67wykN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>):

> Mark <captain.black(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of "magical" effects (and website design in general):
>> <http://www.sarahjanenewbury.com/>
>
> Aiieee! A warning might have been polite.
>
> NSFE - Not Safe For Eyes.
>
> Not so good for those with a weak stomach either.
>
>
Ha! It is rather OTT, isn't it? :-)

Cheers ... Mark

From: Andy Hewitt on
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:

> On 2010-06-03 08:49:30 +0100, <address_is(a)invalid.invalid> said:
>
> > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
> >> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2010-06-02 23:25:53 +0100, Woody said:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, massive. And why a png? Its a photograph, it should be a jpg.
> >>>> If I convert it to a jpeg at 25kB I can't tell the difference so it
> >>>> is
> >>>> at least 7 times bigger than it needs to be. When I load the page I
> >>>> can
> >>>> actually see it load, and that is on a broadband.
> >>>> The other graphics are similar. Means the site is really slow at
> >>>> loading
> >>>> for no reason.
> >>>
> >>> If Andy wants a good idea of how slowly a site loads, the Safari Web
> >>> Inspector Resources view is pretty handy.
> >>
> >> Hmm, didn't know that was there, quite handy.
> >>
> >> It does seem to contradict what we know though. For example, it says
> >> the
> >> total amount of images is only 7.33KB we already know that one of them
> >> is 170KB. How reliable is this then?
> >
> > Does it? Mine says they are huge and the JavaScript is bigger!
>
> Yep, clicking on the Size graph for the front page
> (Churches/Welcome.html?) shows 17.66K for Documents, 7.75KB for
> Stylesheets, 426.84KB for Images, 229.71KB for Scripts, 2.39KB for XHR
> (looks like /Churches/feed.xml).

Ah yes, silly me, I'd been on the wrong page <blush>

Hmm, how about that then, total page size now 24.5KB

I *think* the images were large as I'd used a mask to resize and crop
them. This time I simply used the Inspector panel to change the size,
which seems to have reduced the size considerably.

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
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