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From: Free Lunch on 24 Jul 2010 13:41 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:25:20 -0700, Jason(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote in alt.talk.creationism: >In article ><2dcfcfcd-3b78-463b-95f6-aba3ed2ad9a6(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, "Bob >T." <bob(a)synapse-cs.com> wrote: > >> On Jul 23, 8:11=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> > >> > I will ask once again--If Darwin was NOT discussing God breathing life >> > into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he discussing. >> >> He was obviously talking about the very beginnings of life, >> microscopic in size, billions of years before humans existed. >> >> > I delete posts that I have already read. >> >> You apparently delete them from your brain, as well, because you keep >> asking questions that have already been answered. >> >> - Bob T >> >> > - Show quoted text - > >He mentioned the word "breathing"--what did Darwin mean if he was NOT >discussing BREATHING life into Adam and perhaps also Eve? You really are silly.
From: Mark K Bilbo on 24 Jul 2010 15:00 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:25:20 -0700, Jason wrote: > In article > <2dcfcfcd-3b78-463b-95f6-aba3ed2ad9a6(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, > "Bob T." <bob(a)synapse-cs.com> wrote: > >> On Jul 23, 8:11=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> > >> > I will ask once again--If Darwin was NOT discussing God breathing >> > life into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he discussing. >> >> He was obviously talking about the very beginnings of life, microscopic >> in size, billions of years before humans existed. >> >> > I delete posts that I have already read. >> >> You apparently delete them from your brain, as well, because you keep >> asking questions that have already been answered. >> >> - Bob T >> >> > - Show quoted text - > > He mentioned the word "breathing"--what did Darwin mean if he was NOT > discussing BREATHING life into Adam and perhaps also Eve? Nope, if anything, he meant the initial single celled organisms. Not your mythology. And "breathed" is just a metaphor... -- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to believe in him, then he should know what would prove his existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason to believe in him." -- Woden
From: Mark K Bilbo on 24 Jul 2010 15:00 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:41:15 -0500, Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:25:20 -0700, Jason(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote in > alt.talk.creationism: > >>In article >><2dcfcfcd-3b78-463b-95f6-aba3ed2ad9a6(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, >>"Bob T." <bob(a)synapse-cs.com> wrote: >> >>> On Jul 23, 8:11=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>> > >>> > I will ask once again--If Darwin was NOT discussing God breathing >>> > life into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he discussing. >>> >>> He was obviously talking about the very beginnings of life, >>> microscopic in size, billions of years before humans existed. >>> >>> > I delete posts that I have already read. >>> >>> You apparently delete them from your brain, as well, because you keep >>> asking questions that have already been answered. >>> >>> - Bob T >>> >>> > - Show quoted text - >> >>He mentioned the word "breathing"--what did Darwin mean if he was NOT >>discussing BREATHING life into Adam and perhaps also Eve? > > You really are silly. Profoundly so. -- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing" -- Anatole France
From: Mark K Bilbo on 24 Jul 2010 15:03 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:23:04 -0700, Jason wrote: >> >> >>> "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several >> >> >>> powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into >> >> >>> one; and that whilst this planet has gone cycling on according >> >> >>> to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless >> >> >>> forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being, >> >> >>> evolved." Charles Darwin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Damn Jason, I don't see where he mentions "Gawd". Perhaps you cam >> >> >> point this out to me. >> >> > >> >> > Compare the above statement to Genesis 2:7 and the above statement >> >> > by Darwin makes perfect sense. Keep in mind that Darwin was a >> >> > Christian during the younger days of his life and knew all about >> >> > the Bible--esp. the first several chapters of Genesis. Who else >> >> > but God can breath life into people. If Darwin was NOT discussing >> >> > God breathing life into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was >> >> > he discussing? >> >> >> >> >> >> I debated this point with you a few days ago and you just keep >> >> blowing right on by it. Go back and read what I said! >> > >> > I will ask once again--If Darwin was NOT discussing God breathing >> > life into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he discussing? I >> > delete posts that I have already read. >> >> >> By "already read", I take it you mean "contain things I don't wanna >> see"... > > You failed to answer the above question. Already have. You just don't want to "hear" it. He was talking abiogenesis. The initial life on the planet. Whatever "form" that took. Single celled organisms perhaps. Evolutionary theory has *always* started with life existing. It has *never* contained abiogenesis. You cannot--well, a *honest* person cannot--get the A&E myth out of what Darwin wrote. You have to rip that ONE comment out of his entire body of work and ignore it all. That's nuts. I understand 19th century grammar and phrasing confuses you. That is hardly surprising in your case. -- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else pours dirt in their holes. "Climb out of your holes people!" -- Dr. House, on faith
From: Mark K Bilbo on 24 Jul 2010 15:07
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:40:28 -0700, Jason wrote: > What does that have to do with Darwin's "breathing" comment? If God was > NOT discussing God breathing life into Adam and perhaps also Eve--what > was he discussing? You take the closing paragraph of a book, throw the *entire* *rest* of the book out the window, and insist on shoving a meaning into that closing paragraph? That is *beyond* stupid. It's Olympic class stupid. You should get a medal or something. When the entire rest of the book is about species *evolving* from simpler forms--including us--how do you think you're going to get away with claiming the closing paragraph supports your mythology? -- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "Oh honey, I have a fake laugh with your name written all over it." -- Karen Walker |