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From: Jason on 23 Jul 2010 23:28 In article <mrydnRaEnvKJvNfRnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 7/23/2010 5:09 PM, Jason wrote: > >>> Are you saying that Darwin was not interested in selling copies of his > >>> books in America? In the 1800 and early 1900's--a majority of people in > >>> Europe were Christians. Darwin was a Christian during the early years of > >>> his life. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jason, it doesn't make any difference what Darwin's religion was. He > >> still supported his theory. If Darwin was a Christian why did Christians > >> make up so many lies about his conversion on his death bed. > > > > Darwin was a Christian during the early years of his life. He did NOT > > discuss theories of abiogenesis in any of his books. Have you wondered > > about that? I have and the answer is simple. He believed that God created > > mankind and a countless number of beautiful and wonderful plants and > > animals. After mankind, plants and animals were created is when evolution > > kicked in. > > > > Charles Darwin stated: > > > > "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having > > been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst > > this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, > > from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful > > have been and are being, evolved." > > > > Compare his statement to Genesis 2:7 and you will know what Darwin meant > > when he stated "breathed into a few forms [Adam and Eve] or into one > > [Adam]. > > > > The Bible does NOT say that God breathed life into Eve but Darwin believed > > that it may have happened that way. It could have happened that way--it > > makes sense. > > > > > It is a good thing that lairs like you lie about folks who are dead, > that way you don't have to confront them with your cockamamie ideas. I don't know what you mean. I looked up lair in my dictionary and it states that a lair is "the resting place of a wild animal".
From: Ralph on 24 Jul 2010 09:18 On 7/23/2010 11:28 PM, Jason wrote: > In article<mrydnRaEnvKJvNfRnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/23/2010 5:09 PM, Jason wrote: >>>>> Are you saying that Darwin was not interested in selling copies of his >>>>> books in America? In the 1800 and early 1900's--a majority of people in >>>>> Europe were Christians. Darwin was a Christian during the early years of >>>>> his life. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jason, it doesn't make any difference what Darwin's religion was. He >>>> still supported his theory. If Darwin was a Christian why did Christians >>>> make up so many lies about his conversion on his death bed. >>> >>> Darwin was a Christian during the early years of his life. He did NOT >>> discuss theories of abiogenesis in any of his books. Have you wondered >>> about that? I have and the answer is simple. He believed that God created >>> mankind and a countless number of beautiful and wonderful plants and >>> animals. After mankind, plants and animals were created is when evolution >>> kicked in. >>> >>> Charles Darwin stated: >>> >>> "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having >>> been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst >>> this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, >>> from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful >>> have been and are being, evolved." >>> >>> Compare his statement to Genesis 2:7 and you will know what Darwin meant >>> when he stated "breathed into a few forms [Adam and Eve] or into one >>> [Adam]. >>> >>> The Bible does NOT say that God breathed life into Eve but Darwin believed >>> that it may have happened that way. It could have happened that way--it >>> makes sense. >> >> >> >> >> It is a good thing that lairs like you lie about folks who are dead, >> that way you don't have to confront them with your cockamamie ideas. > > I don't know what you mean. I looked up lair in my dictionary and it > states that a lair is "the resting place of a wild animal". > > Aw Jason, you're certainly not the person to start a spelling, typo or grammar war but since you did I'll finish it. Good luck, you'll need it:-))))).
From: Mark K Bilbo on 24 Jul 2010 11:17 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:11:39 -0700, Jason wrote: > In article <mrydnReEnvIdvdfRnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/23/2010 5:17 PM, Jason wrote: >> > In article<-cSdnZrItZ0RZdTRnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph >> > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On 7/23/2010 3:33 PM, Jason wrote: >> >>>> Either you're blatantly lying, or this is yet another example >> >>>> of the >> >>>> depth and breadth of your ignorance. Evolutionists have ideas >> >>>> about the subject based on available evidence (remember I >> >>>> mentioned that the theory of evolution has evolved since Darwin?), >> >>>> but are quite willing to drop them when new evidence falsifying >> >>>> those ideas becomes available. >> >>>> >> >>>> That's the difference between science and religion. >> >>>> >> >>>> Religionists will NEVER drop their beliefs, despite the lack >> >>>> of >> >>>> evidence for them, or the availability of evidence against them. >> >>>> It's why you like to stifle and/or kill opponents of your ideas. >> >>>> >> >>>>> not intelligent enough to realize that God created life on this >> >>>>> planet. >> >>>> >> >>>> What your Bible says is that god "breathed" life into a pile >> >>>> of dust >> >>>> shaped like a man, which then became living. >> >>>> >> >>>> Are you seriously suggesting that is an accurate description >> >>>> of an >> >>>> actual event? >> >>>> >> >>>> Do you seriously believe that the transfer of air carries >> >>>> something >> >>>> that imbues life into inanimate matter? >> >>>> >> >>>> What is the nature of that "something"? >> >>>> >> >>>> Also, "belief" in something without any evidence to >> >>>> substantiate it >> >>>> is *not* a function of intelligence. You're the one that keeps >> >>>> saying you "don't know" what various things brought up in this >> >>>> thread mean, yet you claim "special knowledge" and/or "wisdom" >> >>>> based on your *belief* that your Bible is correct. >> >>>> >> >>>> The word you wanted is "faith". >> >>>> >> >>>>> They think they are wise but they became fools. Thank goodness, >> >>>>> that Darwin was intelligent enough to realize that God created >> >>>>> life on this planet. Darwin was not a fool. >> >>>> >> >>>> Again that's *your* interpretation of something that doesn't >> >>>> need >> >>>> interpreting. Besides, your interpretation is completely *against* >> >>>> what the Bible says; it leaves *no room* for evolution because >> >>>> according to it, every living thing produces offspring "like from >> >>>> like". >> >>>> >> >>>> Your interpretation is heresy. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Mark L. Fergerson >> >>> >> >>> The creation of mankind was a miracle. How God went about creating >> >>> life on this earth is not mentioned in any great detail in the >> >>> Bible. >> >> >> >> >> >> Wonder why? I would have loved to hear how he made material things >> >> follow his orders. Little quarks and electrons just bopping around >> >> making stars and galaxies and all kinds of wonders. How did he do >> >> that, Jason? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> God knows >> >>> 1000% more about DNA, etc than any scientist living today. >> >> >> >> >> >> Why not 10^10,000 more. Why stop at a thousand? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> God used his >> >>> knowledge of science and biology to create life on this planet. >> >> >> >> >> >> Where did he get his degree? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Darwin >> >>> believed that God breathed life into Adam and perhaps also breathed >> >>> life into Eve. He believed that God created an endless number of >> >>> plants and animals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's a god damn lie and you know it! >> >> >> >> >> >>> After the creation of mankind, plants and animals is when evolution >> >>> kicked in. >> >> >> >> >> >> Good, you acknowledge evolution occurred. >> >> >> >> >> >>> I believe the reason Darwin did not discuss theories related to >> >>> abiogenesis in his book is because he believed God created mankind >> >>> and an endless number of beautiful and wonderful plants and >> >>> animals. The plants and animals on the earth today have as >> >>> ancestors the plants and animals that God created. This is a >> >>> statement from Darwin's famous book: >> >> >> >> >> >> What you believe and what actually occurred are two different things >> >> and you are clueless about both of them. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, >> >>> having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and >> >>> that whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed >> >>> law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most >> >>> beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being, evolved." >> >>> Charles Darwin >> >> >> >> >> >> Damn Jason, I don't see where he mentions "Gawd". Perhaps you cam >> >> point this out to me. >> > >> > Compare the above statement to Genesis 2:7 and the above statement by >> > Darwin makes perfect sense. Keep in mind that Darwin was a Christian >> > during the younger days of his life and knew all about the >> > Bible--esp. the first several chapters of Genesis. Who else but God >> > can breath life into people. If Darwin was NOT discussing God >> > breathing life into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he >> > discussing? >> >> >> I debated this point with you a few days ago and you just keep blowing >> right on by it. Go back and read what I said! > > I will ask once again--If Darwin was NOT discussing God breathing life > into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he discussing. I delete > posts that I have already read. By "already read", I take it you mean "contain things I don't wanna see"... -- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." -- Susan B. Anthony
From: Bob T. on 24 Jul 2010 11:26 On Jul 23, 8:11 pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > I will ask once again--If Darwin was NOT discussing God breathing life > into Adam and perhaps also into Eve--what was he discussing. He was obviously talking about the very beginnings of life, microscopic in size, billions of years before humans existed. > I delete posts that I have already read. You apparently delete them from your brain, as well, because you keep asking questions that have already been answered. - Bob T > - Show quoted text -
From: Jason on 24 Jul 2010 11:56
In article <uqydnf6s4MGAddfRnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 7/23/2010 11:28 PM, Jason wrote: > > In article<mrydnRaEnvKJvNfRnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> On 7/23/2010 5:09 PM, Jason wrote: > >>>>> Are you saying that Darwin was not interested in selling copies of his > >>>>> books in America? In the 1800 and early 1900's--a majority of people in > >>>>> Europe were Christians. Darwin was a Christian during the early years of > >>>>> his life. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jason, it doesn't make any difference what Darwin's religion was. He > >>>> still supported his theory. If Darwin was a Christian why did Christians > >>>> make up so many lies about his conversion on his death bed. > >>> > >>> Darwin was a Christian during the early years of his life. He did NOT > >>> discuss theories of abiogenesis in any of his books. Have you wondered > >>> about that? I have and the answer is simple. He believed that God created > >>> mankind and a countless number of beautiful and wonderful plants and > >>> animals. After mankind, plants and animals were created is when evolution > >>> kicked in. > >>> > >>> Charles Darwin stated: > >>> > >>> "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having > >>> been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst > >>> this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, > >>> from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful > >>> have been and are being, evolved." > >>> > >>> Compare his statement to Genesis 2:7 and you will know what Darwin meant > >>> when he stated "breathed into a few forms [Adam and Eve] or into one > >>> [Adam]. > >>> > >>> The Bible does NOT say that God breathed life into Eve but Darwin believed > >>> that it may have happened that way. It could have happened that way--it > >>> makes sense. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> It is a good thing that lairs like you lie about folks who are dead, > >> that way you don't have to confront them with your cockamamie ideas. > > > > I don't know what you mean. I looked up lair in my dictionary and it > > states that a lair is "the resting place of a wild animal". > > > > > > > > Aw Jason, you're certainly not the person to start a spelling, typo or > grammar war but since you did I'll finish it. Good luck, you'll need > it:-))))). I was making a point. It's easy to make spelling errors, typo errors and grammar errors in newsgroup posts. Most people that post in newsgroups don't bother to edit their posts. I do not edit or proofread my posts. Some people that are excellent writers never make errors. I have never been an excellent writer. I have had to spend lots of time editing college papers. While I was working on my Master's Degree, I hired a local former secretary to edit and type all of my college papers. I wrote the papers and she cleaned up the spelling, typos and grammar. I read in an article in a magazine that many of the people that are working on Ph.D. degrees hire writing experts to write their entire theses for them. They do nothing but provide the subject. jason |