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From: Joseki on 10 Jul 2010 19:29 On Jul 10, 6:20 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:02:36 -0700, Jason wrote: > > In article <4c38b...(a)news.x-privat.org>, "Saint Heretica" > > <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > >> "Jason" <Ja...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > >>news:Jason-0907102132490001(a)66-53-211-207.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > >> > Your faith in Abiogenesis is as strong as the faith of Christians in > >> > creation science. > > >> You've been told many times in the past that there is no evidence for > >> a > >> magical "creation." There is much evidence for abiogenesis/evolution. > >> It's been posted here many times for you over the years. You refuse to > >> read it and discuss it rationally with anyone. You're still spouting > >> the same nonsense you've been spouting for years. > > > There is no proof that abiogenesis has ever taken place. > > So you believe life has existed forever? What about the apparent age of > the universe? > > Well, that is a good question. I guess life is as old as Energy and Matter. : "Energy can neither be created nor can be destroyed but only can be transformed." so some people started to think energy is sacred or eternal however when they said energy can not be created they do not mean it is eternal but they mean it is not created from nothingness. Since it can transform there is a start and finish of the transformation per se.
From: Mark K Bilbo on 10 Jul 2010 21:17 On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:29:14 -0700, Joseki wrote: > On Jul 10, 6:20 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:02:36 -0700, Jason wrote: >> > In article <4c38b...(a)news.x-privat.org>, "Saint Heretica" >> > <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >> >> "Jason" <Ja...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> >>news:Jason-0907102132490001(a)66-53-211-207.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >> >> > Your faith in Abiogenesis is as strong as the faith of Christians >> >> > in creation science. >> >> >> You've been told many times in the past that there is no evidence >> >> for a >> >> magical "creation." There is much evidence for >> >> abiogenesis/evolution. It's been posted here many times for you over >> >> the years. You refuse to read it and discuss it rationally with >> >> anyone. You're still spouting the same nonsense you've been >> >> spouting for years. >> >> > There is no proof that abiogenesis has ever taken place. >> >> So you believe life has existed forever? What about the apparent age of >> the universe? >> >> >> > Well, that is a good question. I guess life is as old as Energy and > Matter. : "Energy can neither be created nor can be destroyed but only > can be transformed." so some people started to think energy is sacred or > eternal however when they said energy can not be created they do not > mean it is eternal but they mean it is not created from nothingness. > Since it can transform there is a start and finish of the transformation > per se. Then there was a point where there was no life? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "...The only really respectable Protestants are the Fundamentalists. Unfortunately, they are also palpable idiots..." - H. L. Mencken
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Jul 2010 21:29 On 7/10/10 6:29 PM, Joseki wrote: > Well, that is a good question. I guess life is as old as Energy and > Matter. Neutral hydrogen and helium didn't exist for the first 382,000 years. The first stars able to synthesize carbon, nitrogen and oxygen didn't come into existence until ~ 400,000,000 years.
From: Joseki on 11 Jul 2010 06:47 On Jul 10, 9:17 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:29:14 -0700, Joseki wrote: > > On Jul 10, 6:20 pm, Mark K Bilbo <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > >> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:02:36 -0700, Jason wrote: > >> > In article <4c38b...(a)news.x-privat.org>, "Saint Heretica" > >> > <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > >> >> "Jason" <Ja...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > >> >>news:Jason-0907102132490001(a)66-53-211-207.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > >> >> > Your faith in Abiogenesis is as strong as the faith of Christians > >> >> > in creation science. > > >> >> You've been told many times in the past that there is no evidence > >> >> for a > >> >> magical "creation." There is much evidence for > >> >> abiogenesis/evolution. It's been posted here many times for you over > >> >> the years. You refuse to read it and discuss it rationally with > >> >> anyone. You're still spouting the same nonsense you've been > >> >> spouting for years. > > >> > There is no proof that abiogenesis has ever taken place. > > >> So you believe life has existed forever? What about the apparent age of > >> the universe? > > > Well, that is a good question. I guess life is as old as Energy and > > Matter. : "Energy can neither be created nor can be destroyed but only > > can be transformed." so some people started to think energy is sacred or > > eternal however when they said energy can not be created they do not > > mean it is eternal but they mean it is not created from nothingness. > > Since it can transform there is a start and finish of the transformation > > per se. > > Then there was a point where there was no life? > > -- > Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 > EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion > ------------------------------------------------------------ > at the point where there was no energy or matter. So do you believe in Magic? I don't.
From: Joseki on 11 Jul 2010 06:49
On Jul 10, 9:29 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/10/10 6:29 PM, Joseki wrote: > > > Well, that is a good question. I guess life is as old as Energy and > > Matter. > > Neutral hydrogen and helium didn't exist for the first 382,000 years. > The first stars able to synthesize carbon, nitrogen and oxygen didn't > come into existence until ~ 400,000,000 years. What is your point.... oh oh, I get it. The only place in the universe that has life is,,, on earth eh? Isn't that a bit narrow? |