From: Mark K Bilbo on
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:15:58 +0100, Smiler. wrote:

> Mark K Bilbo wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:47:26 -0500, Parish *~ wrote:
>>
>>> "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Jason-1907100133520001(a)66-53-209-75.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com...
>>>> In article
>>>> <30f9f50b-09a1-4e69-b670-6c805d584a89(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>
>>>> Why do you believe that Darwin made this statement:
>>>>
>>>> "There is grandeur in this view of life, HAVING BEEN ORIGINALLY
>>>> BREATHED [BY THE CREATOR] INTO A FEW FORMS OR INTO ONE; and that from
>>>> so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most
>>>> wonderful have been, and are being evolved."
>>>
>>> First, why are you adding [BY THE CREATOR] to what he wrote? None of
>>> us can know what he had in his mind at the time.
>>
>> Actually, I think we can. Never authoritatively of course but, still.
>>
>> If you read about his life, Darwin was a bit what we'd call "anal"
>> today. As he could not say with certainty how *life* began, he left the
>> door open for the first cell or cells or whatever to have been
>> "created". We'd call it "theistic evolution" or consider it deistic
>> these days.
>>
>> There was also a bit of fear involved. Fear of the reaction of the
>> Christians (Darwin was quite rational). He left them an "out" with the
>> origin of life, his theory killing special creation of "kinds" as it
>> did.
>>
>> I mean, he knew he was yanking the rug out from under the Eden myth. He
>> hedged by leaving a gap for god to retreat to. <g>
>>
>> Not to mention, deism was much more prevalent and acceptable in the
>> past of the US than recent history.
>
> Why would Darwin have cared about the US and it's beliefs?

Um... wider publication of his book I guess?

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From: Mark K Bilbo on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:19:14 -0700, Jason wrote:

> I believe that it is fairly easy to understand his above statement.

I would have thought.

Then you came along...

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From: Mark K Bilbo on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:04:22 -0700, Jason wrote:

> I continue to believe

That's the problem.

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From: Jason on

> >> In those days, as now, most people in the world were not christians.
> >> And, to be blunt, a lot of christians had their doubts about the
> >> validity of other christians.
> >>
> >> Mark Evans
> >
> > Mark,
> > Good point---I should have stated that most of the people in America were
> > Christians (in the 1800's).
>
> That's as may be, but this is 2010, and I ditched gods four and a half
> decades ago. This native of a Kentucky coal camp doesn't need your spooks.

We were discussing Darwin. I have read that he was a Christian in his
younger years and even considered becoming a minister. That means he knew
a lot about the Bible. That leads me to believe that Darwin had this
scripture in mind when he wrote the quotation mentioned below:

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living
soul.

"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having
been originally breathed into a few forms or into one..."
Charles Darwin


From: SkyEyes on
On Jul 20, 11:33 pm, livvy <go...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you had a strong educational background, which allows you to move
> forward, and study all realms of anything you want,   you'd know
> better than to post a "ooh, look at me"    thing.    Study, read.  Out
> here....ahhhh, not so much.  Alls they know ,  they got from the

"Alls they know , they got from the internet."

Er, no, dearie. Some of us have college educations. <eye roll>

"Alls they know"??? Flunk English, did you?

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