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From: Mark K Bilbo on 21 Jul 2010 09:41 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:15:58 +0100, Smiler. wrote: > Mark K Bilbo wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:47:26 -0500, Parish *~ wrote: >> >>> "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:Jason-1907100133520001(a)66-53-209-75.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>>> In article >>>> <30f9f50b-09a1-4e69-b670-6c805d584a89(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, >>>> >>>> Why do you believe that Darwin made this statement: >>>> >>>> "There is grandeur in this view of life, HAVING BEEN ORIGINALLY >>>> BREATHED [BY THE CREATOR] INTO A FEW FORMS OR INTO ONE; and that from >>>> so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most >>>> wonderful have been, and are being evolved." >>> >>> First, why are you adding [BY THE CREATOR] to what he wrote? None of >>> us can know what he had in his mind at the time. >> >> Actually, I think we can. Never authoritatively of course but, still. >> >> If you read about his life, Darwin was a bit what we'd call "anal" >> today. As he could not say with certainty how *life* began, he left the >> door open for the first cell or cells or whatever to have been >> "created". We'd call it "theistic evolution" or consider it deistic >> these days. >> >> There was also a bit of fear involved. Fear of the reaction of the >> Christians (Darwin was quite rational). He left them an "out" with the >> origin of life, his theory killing special creation of "kinds" as it >> did. >> >> I mean, he knew he was yanking the rug out from under the Eden myth. He >> hedged by leaving a gap for god to retreat to. <g> >> >> Not to mention, deism was much more prevalent and acceptable in the >> past of the US than recent history. > > Why would Darwin have cared about the US and it's beliefs? Um... wider publication of his book I guess? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Oh honey, I have a fake laugh with your name written all over it." -- Karen Walker
From: Mark K Bilbo on 21 Jul 2010 15:02 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:19:14 -0700, Jason wrote: > I believe that it is fairly easy to understand his above statement. I would have thought. Then you came along... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Oh honey, I have a fake laugh with your name written all over it." -- Karen Walker
From: Mark K Bilbo on 21 Jul 2010 15:03 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:04:22 -0700, Jason wrote: > I continue to believe That's the problem. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Arrogance has to be earned. Tell me what you've done to earn yours." - Dr. House
From: Jason on 21 Jul 2010 15:30 > >> In those days, as now, most people in the world were not christians. > >> And, to be blunt, a lot of christians had their doubts about the > >> validity of other christians. > >> > >> Mark Evans > > > > Mark, > > Good point---I should have stated that most of the people in America were > > Christians (in the 1800's). > > That's as may be, but this is 2010, and I ditched gods four and a half > decades ago. This native of a Kentucky coal camp doesn't need your spooks. We were discussing Darwin. I have read that he was a Christian in his younger years and even considered becoming a minister. That means he knew a lot about the Bible. That leads me to believe that Darwin had this scripture in mind when he wrote the quotation mentioned below: Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one..." Charles Darwin
From: SkyEyes on 21 Jul 2010 17:25
On Jul 20, 11:33 pm, livvy <go...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If you had a strong educational background, which allows you to move > forward, and study all realms of anything you want, you'd know > better than to post a "ooh, look at me" thing. Study, read. Out > here....ahhhh, not so much. Alls they know , they got from the "Alls they know , they got from the internet." Er, no, dearie. Some of us have college educations. <eye roll> "Alls they know"??? Flunk English, did you? Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 BAAWA Knight EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes nine at cox dot net |