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From: Woody on 28 Apr 2010 15:00 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:40:47 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) > wrote: > >> >> Didn't you have the (Advent?) model with the built in MBB function? > >> > > >> >MBB? > >> > >> Sri, mobile broadband, SIM slot / mobile frequency broadband built in? > > > >Oh no, mine is wireless but not mobile broadband. I have the mifi > > Ah. I think they did make a model that was (at the time I was looking > at the eeePC) but I think it wasn't as 'good' (specwise) as other > models (smaller screen or keyboard etc) and for less money. When I got mine they didn't have an advent that did it, they just had a packard bell, and I would never buy a packard bell, so it wasn't an option! It was also more expensive for no obvious benefit (other than selling the overpriced PCWorld mobile bundles) > >> I'd forgotten about that solution (the MiFi). However, that would (for > >> me) sort of defeat the point of expecting and all_in_one solution > >> (like the 'Surfer' range). > > > >Well, there is the option. I have my mobile broadband on quite a good > >contract (5GB / �7.50 month). > > Whilst that is quite good admittedly (the sort of money you could > nearly lose in the background noise) it's still 90 quid a year. Good > if you use it a lot (as you do) but probably a bit high for my > impromptu and unpredictable use. Yes > > I use it on my advent (sim used to be in a > >dongle) > > (that's what I was considering so good to know it's possible). > > > and sometimes I use it in the house if the home broadband goes > >down or something (not often), > > (understood and likewise) > > > and sometimes I have let other people use > >it to update thieir non net connected laptops. It is a very handy thing, > >and quite small. > > Sounds ideal (if I can use my non expiring PAYG SIM). > > > >If I got the iPad with the built in 3G, I wouldn't be able to use its > >network for something else, so i am going to accept that as a > >compromise. Obviously it would be better if it did have its 3G, but the > >versatility of the connection is more important. > > Yup, that makes good sense to me. I was initially looking for a an > all_in_one but realised that limits the options somewhat. Is there a > way of using the mobile dongles on an iPod Touch do you know ... iPod > to USB cable (HOST) cable? Not that I am aware of. > >> >I did have (actually still do) the nokia n800, which is good as a mini > >> >computer, but not as flexible as the iPod with the internet. > >> > >> Oh, because? > > > >Well, I guess in some ways it is - it is more flexable in what you run, > >but the navigation is much harder than with the iPod. > > Ok ta. > > > >Obviously this depends on how you wish to navigate and (as below), your > >eyesight and dexterity. > > I was seeing if I could find something like a mobile broadband router > on PCW. Not that I recall, although maybe they do have now. > I got to PCW's site ok but didn't like the way the stuff kept > dropping down across the screen or how I had to expand the display > several times to even be able to read it (although it was good that > you could etc). Well, luckily most things are a lot better than PCW web page so you only get that irritation occasionally, and I have used it on the iPhone many times, including when they wouldn't sell me something at the web price so I went outside, ordered it on the phone, then went to the pickup place (the same woman who wouldn't sell it at the web price). > >> Ok. I think I looked at the 900 (?) in PCW but went for the T|X > >> instead (can't remember why now ... I think the reviews on the N8/900 > >> weren't that encouraging at the time or somesuch). > > > >The 900 is the 800 made into a phone, so it has the internet. > > Ah, ta, so for 'our' use the 800 + MiFi would be ok. Yes, should be fine. The 800 has very good wireless, good battery life, runs most things. keyboard is a bit stiff but you get used to it. Or any of the previous series, such as the 770. It occurs to me now mine is the 810, I have a 770 too, which is the one I went across the states with. > >> [1a] Could I unlock a 3 MiFi to work with my Voda non-expiring mbb SIM > >> do you think please? [B] I note that Voda do a similar thing but it > >> isn't cheap and I don't know what the deal is yet. > > > >Yes, mine was an unlocked one I got on ebay. > > Ok. > > > You can get them on PAYG > >and then just use the DC unlocker to unlock them. > > How much does that cost (I had a quick look on their site but it > wasn't obvious). How many credits did you need? No idea, as I said mine was unlocked when I got it from ebay, but you can get them on the three website PAYG. I don't know how the DC unlocking stuff works, never used it (the last things I unlocked were all done by the suppliers) -- Woody Alienrat Design Ltd
From: T i m on 28 Apr 2010 16:25 On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:00:09 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: <snip> > >Well, luckily most things are a lot better than PCW web page so you only >get that irritation occasionally, Ok. > and I have used it on the iPhone many >times, including when they wouldn't sell me something at the web price >so I went outside, ordered it on the phone, then went to the pickup >place (the same woman who wouldn't sell it at the web price). To be fair I think the Collect in store system has got more complicated of late so possibly less easy for them to do. I have had them do stuff for me previously and they were ok about it. > >> Ah, ta, so for 'our' use the 800 + MiFi would be ok. > >Yes, should be fine. The 800 has very good wireless, good battery life, >runs most things. keyboard is a bit stiff but you get used to it. Might suit my one fingered pecking quite well then. ;-) > >Or any of the previous series, such as the 770. It occurs to me now mine >is the 810, I have a 770 too, which is the one I went across the states >with. How does the 810 screen and browser compare with the Touch would you say? > >No idea, as I said mine was unlocked when I got it from ebay, but you >can get them on the three website PAYG. I can't see if the credit is non expiring though. >I don't know how the DC >unlocking stuff works, never used it (the last things I unlocked were >all done by the suppliers) Ok, ta. If we are talking about vfm and flexibility I think the Zoom (3G Wireless-N Travel -) router could be a better option (for me) than the MiFi. Ok, it's probably not as compact but I wouldn't need to worry about unlocking or compatibility between SIMs and services (as it takes the std USB dongle). This also means the dongle might be relocated remotely from the router a bit by a USB extension cable. [1] Cheers, T i m [1] I recently retrieved my 5M single port USB hub / lead and tried it on a mates laptop and my Voda dongle. W7 didn't have the driver for the USB hub/cable, Ubuntu worked it straight off. ;-)
From: Woody on 28 Apr 2010 19:03 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:00:09 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) > wrote: > > <snip> > > > >Well, luckily most things are a lot better than PCW web page so you only > >get that irritation occasionally, > > Ok. > > > and I have used it on the iPhone many > >times, including when they wouldn't sell me something at the web price > >so I went outside, ordered it on the phone, then went to the pickup > >place (the same woman who wouldn't sell it at the web price). > > To be fair I think the Collect in store system has got more > complicated of late so possibly less easy for them to do. I have had > them do stuff for me previously and they were ok about it. ok. Well, I think some try harder than other, and to be fair, our local one isn't so bad. > >> Ah, ta, so for 'our' use the 800 + MiFi would be ok. > > > >Yes, should be fine. The 800 has very good wireless, good battery life, > >runs most things. keyboard is a bit stiff but you get used to it. > > Might suit my one fingered pecking quite well then. ;-) Its not so bad. I was ok with the onscreen keyboard of the 770, but it does give you more scope, and after a while you do get used to it. The iPhone is quicker. > >Or any of the previous series, such as the 770. It occurs to me now mine > >is the 810, I have a 770 too, which is the one I went across the states > >with. > > How does the 810 screen and browser compare with the Touch would you > say? In what way? It is higher resolution for sure, the 810 has 800x400 resolution so 225 ppi, compared to the iPods 480x320 at 163 ppi (although aparently the next ones are much higher res), so in theory the 810s screen would be finer, and it does have nice fonts (although actually bigger), but the passive touch screen means there is a sort of sparkly effect, so the iPods screen is clearer. The UI of the 810 you may prefer as it has more traditional menus etc, which may suit you better. It is a linux distribution, there is quite a lot of software, most of it free, although nothing like the amount for the iPod / iPhone. It has a GPS in there, which since the original software update isn't so bad, although the software for it isn't great, other than you can use maemo mapper to use your own maps. I would take a pic of them side by side for you, but the nokia needs charging at the moment > >No idea, as I said mine was unlocked when I got it from ebay, but you > >can get them on the three website PAYG. > > I can't see if the credit is non expiring though. It is expiring, that is the way 3 do it unfortunately. > >I don't know how the DC > >unlocking stuff works, never used it (the last things I unlocked were > >all done by the suppliers) > > Ok, ta. > > If we are talking about vfm and flexibility I think the Zoom (3G > Wireless-N Travel -) router could be a better option (for me) than the > MiFi. Ok, it's probably not as compact but I wouldn't need to worry > about unlocking or compatibility between SIMs and services (as it > takes the std USB dongle). Well, the unlocked compatibility is ok, I know that. I do have a menu on the web user interface for the other manufacturers, vodaphone is on there) and the web shows people who use it that way. > This also means the dongle might be > relocated remotely from the router a bit by a USB extension cable. [1] why does that help? -- Woody Alienrat Design Ltd
From: Mark on 28 Apr 2010 20:03 On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:07:49 +0100, Sak Wathanasin wrote (in article <c50b9ccf-b820-400b-87f5-57103104f70f(a)u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>): > On 28 Apr, 15:51, pe...(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > > >> Towards the end of my working life, I used to carry an NC200. A lot >> heavier and more expensive, but searchable. That was the breakthrough. > > Indeed - I kept a lab notebook for years like I'd been taught to. The > trouble was finding stuff again ("What was the passphrase for that > certificate I'd installed a couple of years go?"). The Newton for all > its faults solved that problem for me and it could capture freehand > sketches as well. There are a few sketch/doodle apps for the iPhone > though I haven't investigated these as the iPhone screen is too small > to be useful. I would guess the iPad in its initial release will only > sync notes to Mail.app but perhaps in future you will be able to xfer > stuff back and forth (I mean from the Finder, not just from a specific > appl). The iPhone display seems to use a kind of "snap to pixel" approach - not really "free" free-hand, and not very/particularly precise - nothing like my Palms were... Cheers ... Mark
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 28 Apr 2010 20:47
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:03:53 +0100, Mark <captain.black(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:07:49 +0100, Sak Wathanasin wrote >(in article ><c50b9ccf-b820-400b-87f5-57103104f70f(a)u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>): > >> On 28 Apr, 15:51, pe...(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: >> >> >>> Towards the end of my working life, I used to carry an NC200. A lot >>> heavier and more expensive, but searchable. That was the breakthrough. >> >> Indeed - I kept a lab notebook for years like I'd been taught to. The >> trouble was finding stuff again ("What was the passphrase for that >> certificate I'd installed a couple of years go?"). The Newton for all >> its faults solved that problem for me and it could capture freehand >> sketches as well. There are a few sketch/doodle apps for the iPhone >> though I haven't investigated these as the iPhone screen is too small >> to be useful. I would guess the iPad in its initial release will only >> sync notes to Mail.app but perhaps in future you will be able to xfer >> stuff back and forth (I mean from the Finder, not just from a specific >> appl). > >The iPhone display seems to use a kind of "snap to pixel" approach - not >really "free" free-hand, and not very/particularly precise - nothing like my >Palms were... Evidence appears to disagree: http://labs.moto.com/robot_touchscreen_analysis/ For touchable screen elements (buttons and whatnot) the touchable area does not necessarily correspond to the button or whatnot. This is intentional, by design, and far more usable than pixel-perfect touch. Cheers - Jaimie -- When the ad says "Kills 99.9 percent of bacteria!" my reflexive response is "...and the 0.1 percent left can bench-press a truck" -- David Staples, asr |