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From: Leave me alone on 2 Jun 2010 18:46 In article <16saah13cpbay.yb0t7vokfihy.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Rowland of The BNP <rowlie(a)bnp.com> wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 23:42:44 +0100, Leave me alone wrote: > > > In article <14rmy72cuuz49$.18e4kaac2jcy8.dlg(a)40tude.net>, > > Rowland McDrivel <Rowland_liar(a)physics.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:37:42 +0100, Jim bleated: > >> > >>> On 2010-05-27, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:12:15 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> Hmm, but on something that is already 'expensive' would that really be > >>>>>> an issue? > >>>>> > >>>>>No, especially as they could absorb some of that (their profit margins > >>>>>tend > >>>>>towards 30%). Additionally they could play the 'locally made' card for > >>>>>all > >>>>>they're worth, which would be great advertising for them. > >>>>> > >>>>>The fact that they don't tells me that it would cost a lot more than �25 > >>>>> > >>>> Maybe I'm just more more cynical then. ;-) > >>> > >>> Quite possibly. The benefits of Apple manfacturing locally (per country) > >>> would vastly outweigh the trivial price increase, if it were truly > >>> trivial. > >>> > >>> The fact that they don't suggests to me that it wouldn't be a trivial > >>> price > >>> increase. > >>> > >>> Plus, as has been pointed out, 10 or 12 suicides per year in a workforce > >>> of > >>> almost half a million may well have nothing at all to do with the > >>> company, > >>> but instead just be the usual numbers you'd see in any group of 500,000 > >>> people in China. Or the West for that matter. > >>> > >> > >> No you silly ponce, people in the workforce aren't just like any average > >> group of 500,000 people. They are mentally and physically superior and > >> sound enough to earn a living. A truly average group of 500,000 people > >> includes physically and mentally ill people, who are at much greater risk > >> of suicide. > > > > You are talking to Rowland about a concept that escapes him, ...work. He > > has distant memories of work and even has some recent experience of his > > wife going out to work, but Rowland would not know how to go about it. > > No work for Rowland since they dragged him from the classroom kicking and > screaming. His behavior became too bizarre to tolerate. He does have a job, in his mind and we know how flawed that is, he has very important things to do on his Mac.
From: Pd on 4 Jun 2010 18:24
Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > On 27 May, 18:50, zoara <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > A suicide rate of 2/100.000/year is very low indeed, > > > > incredibly low even, > > Except that this is not a random sample of the general population; > it's a group of "lucky" people with steady jobs, income, housing, > leisure facilities &c. Now Foxconn don't sound like Cadburys or > Rowntree in their heyday, but even so, compared to 16-hrs a day in the > padi fields, it must seem like paradise. What is more, this is a > group who applied to work in those factories, and will have been > picked by the Foxconn HR as being able to cope with the conditions. > Any suicide in such a group must be worrying. There's an interesting interview with Steve Jobs about the issue over on D8 (All Things Digital) <http://bit.ly/dkZPSN> Full url for the paranoid: <http://d8.allthingsd.com/20100602/d8-video-apple-ceo-steve-jobs-on-the- foxconn-suicides/> -- Pd |