From: T i m on
On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:16:53 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody)
wrote:


>> > I think that is probably true for a lot of people. We got one as we had
>> > some friends raving about how good they are, and while I find the
>> > technical design fairly good, and like the no bag thing, I don't find
>> > the actual physical quality of it to be any better than any other vaccum
>> > cleaner i have tried. It is plasticy and fussy. Overall, when it dies
>> > and I am looking for another one, I will be checking reviews obviously
>> > but I certainly won't be paying anything over the odds for the name.
>>
>> Yeah, we bought a miele when everyone was going hysterical over dysons.
>> I did want to support a british manufacturer (a clever one at that), but
>> ultimately they were too expensive for us...
>
>I guess I am in the camp of not often caring that much where something
>is made, as long as it is made well.
>Although I do take into account in cost where something was made.

I didn't like Dyson stuff (expensive / flash) and when looking to
replace our old cleaner I took a sound level meter into our local
store and all things considered, came out with the Miele. We've since
picked up a DC01 and a DC05 (Freecycle) and whilst they have their
merits (easy to work on, no bag etc) they aren't quiet enough for me
to use for more than 5 mins (upsets my tinnitus).

Cheers, T i m


From: Sak Wathanasin on
On 27 May, 11:56, use...(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:

> ok. What I was refering to up there are two shirts. One is in primark at
> £7, one is at M&S for £29. They are white linin shirts. I can't find a
> difference other than the pocket style is different.

I guess the way to settle this would be a large-scale double-blind
trial, and I don't know of any. In the absence of hard data, I tend to
go to M&S for the workaday stuff: Primark shirts *might* last a long
while, but M&S ones definitely do. My wife forced me to dispose of
some > 10 yr ones around Xmas, but left to my own devices, I would
have happily carried on using them (OK, they were getting a little
frayed around the collar). In any case, I don't plan to buy any more
shirts until 2020.
From: Woody on
Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote:

> On 27 May, 11:56, use...(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:
>
> > ok. What I was refering to up there are two shirts. One is in primark at
> > �7, one is at M&S for �29. They are white linin shirts. I can't find a
> > difference other than the pocket style is different.
>
> I guess the way to settle this would be a large-scale double-blind
> trial, and I don't know of any. In the absence of hard data, I tend to
> go to M&S for the workaday stuff: Primark shirts *might* last a long
> while, but M&S ones definitely do. My wife forced me to dispose of
> some > 10 yr ones around Xmas, but left to my own devices, I would
> have happily carried on using them (OK, they were getting a little
> frayed around the collar). In any case, I don't plan to buy any more
> shirts until 2020.

Or I could buy one of each and report back in 5 years or so.


--
Woody
From: Peter Ceresole on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Undoubtably. The price didn't go down once they sacked the UK workforce.
> Seemed odd that just after that mr Dyson was asked to provide advice to
> the government on manufacturing (I guess he said 'sack the british
> workers and move abroad')

My argument with Dyson was the quality of the kit. We had one (made in
the UK) that failed with dust in the motor (we changed the filters
regularly). Very British- followed perfectly our experience with Brit
washing machines. Following family experience over many years and many
machines, we decided to go to a manufacturer from a country that
actually still *knows* about manufacturing, and bought a Miele (and
Siemens washing machines). It's worked perfectly for the last several
years and if family experience is anything to go by, will last for many
more. Same with fridges. We inherited a Liebherr when we bought his
house and it's superb.

If you're buying physical equipment, buy German. Nothing else is as
good, except maybe Japanese. But don't, don't, don't buy British.
--
Peter
From: D.M. Procida on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> If Dell etc pulled out of manufacturing in China
> then unemployment would rocket, causing more problems than there are
> currently.

Just how many of China's approximately 1.3 billion people does Dell
employ, then?

Daniele
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