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From: T i m on 26 May 2010 14:54
Hi all,

On the news just now, it would seem many workers at the Foxconn
factory in China would rather commit suicide (and 11 or so have
already this year) than continue making the likes of the iPhone and
iPad? ;-(

All down to poor working conditions apparently.

Anyone know the typical markups and at what stages of this sort of
gear?

Is Apple a 'Fairtrade' supplier do we know?

Cheers, T i m


From: Bruce Horrocks on 26 May 2010 20:27
On 26/05/2010 19:54, T i m wrote:
> On the news just now, it would seem many workers at the Foxconn
> factory in China would rather commit suicide (and 11 or so have
> already this year) than continue making the likes of the iPhone and
> iPad? ;-(

I've just written a snottogram to The Independent as they had a full
page on this rubbish in Wednesday's edition. The problem is that none of
the articles mention the national suicide rate.

So Foxconn = 10 (or 11 depending upon which report you read) per 400,000
workers. The national rate for Chinese males, according to the World
Health Organisation, is 13 per 100,000.

On those figures, Foxconn are actually doing very well.

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
From: James Jolley on 26 May 2010 20:30
On 2010-05-27 01:27:37 +0100, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> said:

> On 26/05/2010 19:54, T i m wrote:
>> On the news just now, it would seem many workers at the Foxconn
>> factory in China would rather commit suicide (and 11 or so have
>> already this year) than continue making the likes of the iPhone and
>> iPad? ;-(
>
> I've just written a snottogram to The Independent as they had a full
> page on this rubbish in Wednesday's edition. The problem is that none
> of the articles mention the national suicide rate.

Love it, Snottogram. Must use that sometime.

From: Jim on 27 May 2010 01:10
GD <real.email(a)signature.below> wrote:

> Apple not only has a Code of Conduct which suppliers must adhere to but
> it also audits them to make sure they are sticking with it. The audit
> involves interviews with senior management, interviews with workers,
> physical inspection of facilities and a review of suppliers' records.

And more to the point, Apple *publishes the results* instead of just
sweeping them under the carpet.

Jim
--
"Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good
product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious
understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some
slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: Rob on 27 May 2010 01:30
On 26/05/2010 19:54, T i m wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On the news just now, it would seem many workers at the Foxconn
> factory in China would rather commit suicide (and 11 or so have
> already this year) than continue making the likes of the iPhone and
> iPad? ;-(
>

I can't see a link in any of the media I've seen. The only vague stab
has been a correlation between age and suicide, and a 'lost generation'.
But hardly the hard scientific data you seem to have seen - where did
you get it?

Rob
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