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From: Sak Wathanasin on 28 May 2010 03:54 On 27 May, 18:50, zoara <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > A suicide rate of 2/100.000/year is very low indeed, > > incredibly low even, Except that this is not a random sample of the general population; it's a group of "lucky" people with steady jobs, income, housing, leisure facilities &c. Now Foxconn don't sound like Cadburys or Rowntree in their heyday, but even so, compared to 16-hrs a day in the padi fields, it must seem like paradise. What is more, this is a group who applied to work in those factories, and will have been picked by the Foxconn HR as being able to cope with the conditions. Any suicide in such a group must be worrying.
From: Jim on 28 May 2010 04:00 On 2010-05-28, Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > On 27 May, 18:50, zoara <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> > A suicide rate of 2/100.000/year is very low indeed, >> >> incredibly low even, > > Except that this is not a random sample of the general population; > it's a group of "lucky" people with steady jobs, income, housing, > leisure facilities &c. Now Foxconn don't sound like Cadburys or > Rowntree in their heyday, but even so, compared to 16-hrs a day in the > padi fields, it must seem like paradise. What is more, this is a > group who applied to work in those factories, and will have been > picked by the Foxconn HR as being able to cope with the conditions. > Any suicide in such a group must be worrying. No, it just means they have different problems. Jim -- Twitter:@GreyAreaUK "If you have enough book space, I don't want to talk to you." Terry Pratchett
From: zoara on 28 May 2010 04:22 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:28:40 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) >> wrote: > >>> In which case 10 suicides is a remarkably low figure as it is a long >>> way >>> below average >> >> >> Ah, that's ok then, get Apple making more stuff over there (or at >> least till the Apple production lines hit national suicide average). > ;-) > > Please don't joke about suicide. > > Thanks. I'm not sure how that smiley lost its quite bar, it wasn't mine. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Dr Geoff Hone on 28 May 2010 06:05 On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:36:13 +0100, italiancar(a)gmail.com (SteveH) wrote: >Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > >> > > No, cos with this shirt you are not getting anything extra. >> > >> > The extra is that it'll still look good after it has been washed a dozen >> > times, and therefore will last longer. >> >> That is the common logic, but in my direct experience not borne out in >> practice. > >Hmmm, I bought some shirts from our clothing dept. at work, something >like 6 quid, including a tie. They're a bit rubbish, the material is so >thin you could use it as tracing paper. > >> The mac cost is slightly different. I can get more done on the mac >> faster, and enjoy the process, so the relative costs of the componants >> are nowhere near as important as the costs to my time. > >Back to the shirts.... M&S shirts cost more than those I can buy at >work, but they rarely need ironing as they are made from a better >material.... so, the saving in time makes them worthwhile. > I gave up buying M&S Shirts years back - and those from any European retailer. All the retailers in Europe seem to think that one sleeve length fits all. I need a large shirt (to go over the paunch) with a large collar (to go round a neck enlarged by the exercises following open heart surgery), but I do not want sleeves that come down over my fingertips. The Americans seem to understand the concept of having more than one sleeve length - so all my recent purchases of long sleeve shirts have been made in the US. I do not care where they were made, so long as they fit me. Same with most high-tech stuff really - if you really want British Made, you will pay way over the odds for it; then you will find out that it was also manufactured outside our shores. I remember the first Wilson government and their "Buy British" campaign in the late '60s: the concepts of good quality and good design did not come into it. M&S quality was great when they had their stuff made in the UK, and could visit the supplier regularly. They switched to the far east, and quality took a nosedive. Geoff
From: SteveH on 28 May 2010 08:20
SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm, but on something that is already 'expensive' would that really be > > an issue? > > Yes. > > I'd have ordered an iPad at �399. > > At �429 it has broken a 'barrier' and I've stalled over purchasing. > > Kind of hoping they'll turn up on the refurb store in the not too > distant future. Gah! I couldn't resist, could I. Bought a 32GB iPad from Purple World on my way home today. -- SteveH |