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From: Woody on 27 May 2010 05:57 Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > On 27 May, 09:52, use...(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: > > > > I was recently wondering that. There was a shirt I looked at in M&S > > which was �29. The same sort of thing was �7 in primark. I know that > > primark stuff is all made from the blood of unicorns, the tears of > > children and thread made from live skinned kittens, but on the label it > > appears that M&S stuff is made in the same place. > > They may be made in the same place, but the M&S stuff use better > material - Primark stuff fall apart after a couple of washes. You pays > your money... Understandable if they did, but when I first started going back into the office 4 years ago or so, I got some office shirts (had managed to avoid wearing them up until then) as I didn't think it was a permenant thing. I still have them and they are still fine. I have some M&S ones too, and tbh, without looking at the label I can't tell which is which -- Woody
From: J. J. Lodder on 27 May 2010 06:04 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-05-27, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:12:15 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >>> Hmm, but on something that is already 'expensive' would that really be > >>> an issue? > >> > >>No, especially as they could absorb some of that (their profit margins tend > >>towards 30%). Additionally they could play the 'locally made' card for all > >>they're worth, which would be great advertising for them. > >> > >>The fact that they don't tells me that it would cost a lot more than �25 > >> > > Maybe I'm just more more cynical then. ;-) > > Quite possibly. The benefits of Apple manfacturing locally (per country) > would vastly outweigh the trivial price increase, if it were truly trivial. > > The fact that they don't suggests to me that it wouldn't be a trivial price > increase. > > Plus, as has been pointed out, 10 or 12 suicides per year in a workforce of > almost half a million may well have nothing at all to do with the company, > but instead just be the usual numbers you'd see in any group of 500,000 > people in China. Or the West for that matter. See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate> A suicide rate of 2/100.000/year is very low indeed, incredibly low even, Jan
From: T i m on 27 May 2010 06:08 On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:41:13 +0100, Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: >In article <51fsv5pn3bboislk68r8pa7cooemrug990(a)4ax.com>, > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:52:21 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) >> wrote: >> >> > >> >I was recently wondering that. There was a shirt I looked at in M&S >> >which was �29. The same sort of thing was �7 in primark. I know that >> >primark stuff is all made from the blood of unicorns, the tears of >> >children and thread made from live skinned kittens, but on the label it >> >appears that M&S stuff is made in the same place. >> >> Ah, another example of the 'Apple TAX' then. > >No, cos with this shirt you are not getting anything extra. You must be or everyone would buy them much much cheaper in from Primark wouldn't they? Or is it that they are buying it in M&S because they think it's a better product? This is my point with 'expensive gear', just how much markup is done at the POS and wouldn't it be nice if that could be spread back down the chain? And like insurance, for many people the increased cost of a 'Premium product' isn't always good VFM until they try to claim. Unless you actually need something specific of course then you are often paying for what you want. If you want 'an Apple' product then only an Apple product will do and will pay the price to be there (ignoring Hackintoshes etc). If you want 'a laptop' then there could be many cheaper options out there that don't carry the same brand / tax (but may have cost as many lives to make of course) but provide the same function. Cheers, T i m
From: T i m on 27 May 2010 06:15 On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:57:00 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: >> They may be made in the same place, but the M&S stuff use better >> material - Primark stuff fall apart after a couple of washes. You pays >> your money... > >Understandable if they did, but when I first started going back into the >office 4 years ago or so, I got some office shirts (had managed to avoid >wearing them up until then) as I didn't think it was a permenant thing. >I still have them and they are still fine. I have some M&S ones too, and >tbh, without looking at the label I can't tell which is which Seconded. And that's the point with a lot of this isn't it, people believe the hype. I noticed that Kelllogs have been saying 'If it doesn't say Kellogs on the box there isn't Kelllogs in the box' (or some such). All I care about is that there are *corn flakes* in the Sainsburys basics box and at a quarter of the price. (and both are probably as nutritious AS the box). ;-) Cheers, T i m
From: chris on 27 May 2010 06:16
On 27/05/10 10:57, Woody wrote: > Sak Wathanasin<sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 27 May, 09:52, use...(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: >> >> >>> I was recently wondering that. There was a shirt I looked at in M&S >>> which was �29. The same sort of thing was �7 in primark. I know that >>> primark stuff is all made from the blood of unicorns, the tears of >>> children and thread made from live skinned kittens, but on the label it >>> appears that M&S stuff is made in the same place. >> >> They may be made in the same place, but the M&S stuff use better >> material - Primark stuff fall apart after a couple of washes. You pays >> your money... > > Understandable if they did, but when I first started going back into the > office 4 years ago or so, I got some office shirts (had managed to avoid > wearing them up until then) as I didn't think it was a permenant thing. > I still have them and they are still fine. I have some M&S ones too, and > tbh, without looking at the label I can't tell which is which I guess the quality control is much more variable with Primark, as I've had things literally fall apart at the seams with Primark. You can be lucky and get a good batch. Whereas 'better quality' stuff from Gap, Next, M&S, etc are on the whole more likely to survive more than a couple of washes. |