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From: Rowland McDonnell on 23 Jan 2010 16:05 D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > > > >> I hope you're not dissing the cokebottle, extended-meta, and wombat keys? > > > > > > Huh. Now what do they d > > > > > > > > > + + + NO CARRIER + + + > > > > Works every time. > > Does anyone remember the AT modem command that could be encoded into > text, which, when your mark tried to download your text, would make his > modem hang up? Nope, but I might be able to look it up somewhere. I suspect Jim's got it. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 23 Jan 2010 16:16 David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: [snip] > > > > What we used to call the Apple key, until Apple took the Apple symbol > > off it. > > It was called the Apple key back in the days of the Apple II, Not plain old Apple ][s, it wasn't - they didn't have 'em. Power light, esc, ctrl, reset, rept, L and R arrows - the only `not present on a typewriter' keys on the Apple ][ Europlus that I've just unearthed from said cupboard. (leccy tripewriters have return keys) > since the > key just had an Apple symbol on it (Open Apple on an Apple III, IIe and > IIc; the Option key started out as Closed/Solid Apple). The IIgs even > used the Apple symbol in its menu shortcuts. So when did the Apple symbol first turn up on Apple ][s? > The Macintosh (1984) started out by using just the "cloverleaf" symbol > on the Command key, and in menus, and called it "Command" from day one. > (I'm not familiar enough with the Lisa.) That's consistent with the Mac keyboards I've got here. > When ADB was introduced with the Apple IIgs (1986), its keyboard had the > first instance of the Apple/Command pairing, plus Option. The same > symbols were used when ADB appeared on the Mac in 1987 (Mac SE), since > all ADB keyboards could be used on both the Apple IIgs and the Mac (SE > and later). Oh! > Hence the Apple symbol was for the Apple IIgs, and the Command symbol > was for the Macintosh. And now I understand why there were two symbols on the one key. I never knew that. > After a while the Apple/Command symbol pairing stuck, even beyond the > demise of the Apple IIgs (1992), but Apple persisted in calling the key > "Command" and using the Command symbol to refer to it. Apple finally got > rid of the Apple symbol on the key around 2008. There's an Apple on the keyboard I got with my 4G5, which I bought a few hours before the first Intel Mac Pros went on sale. What date was that? (the paperwork's buried in the filing cabinet behind me). Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jim on 23 Jan 2010 16:21 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > It was called the Apple key back in the days of the Apple II, > > Not plain old Apple ][s, it wasn't - they didn't have 'em. > > Power light, esc, ctrl, reset, rept, L and R arrows - the only `not > present on a typewriter' keys on the Apple ][ Europlus that I've just > unearthed from said cupboard. I've just checked my Apple 2's: the ][europlus doesn't have an Apple key. The //e does. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK Please help save Bletchley Park - sign the petition for Government funding at: (open to UK residents and ex.pats) http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/BletchleyPark/ Thank you.
From: Dorian Gray on 23 Jan 2010 16:25 In article <l6udnTxX7cS0f8TWnZ2dnUVZ7rJi4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > And the fn key is just above the forward-delete key, > but I've no idea what it's for. Then you're not reading the rest of the thread (see "Re: Aplgies for errors and confusion was Re: newcomer"), otherwise you would know exactly all the things it is for. :)
From: David Empson on 23 Jan 2010 16:32
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > It was called the Apple key back in the days of the Apple II, > > > > Not plain old Apple ][s, it wasn't - they didn't have 'em. > > > > Power light, esc, ctrl, reset, rept, L and R arrows - the only `not > > present on a typewriter' keys on the Apple ][ Europlus that I've just > > unearthed from said cupboard. > > I've just checked my Apple 2's: the ][europlus doesn't have an Apple > key. The //e does. That's why I listed the models which had the key - Apple III, IIe, IIc and IIgs. By "Apple II" I meant the family. Here is the full sentence I wrote, the rest of which Roland snipped, apparently after reading "Apple II" too literally. David Empson wrote: > It was called the Apple key back in the days of the Apple II, since > the key just had an Apple symbol on it (Open Apple on an Apple III, > IIe and IIc; the Option key started out as Closed/Solid Apple). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz |