From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-01-22 15:19:28 +0000, James Dore said:

> Ah, you've used Sun Sparcstations then?!

L1-A is jolly useful.
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From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-01-22 15:38:23 +0000, Woody said:

> I have a sparc to PS/2 keyboard adapter (by belkin I think), which was
> quite handy when I used to that way. I am sure there are USB ones
> available somewhere

Type 7 keyboards are USB. I think... Get them before they get rebranded?
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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

> D.M. Procida wrote:
> > Rowland McDonnell<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Good thinking - for all that I find Mac help is mostly annoying for me
> >> these days, I do recall that when I changed over to Macs from Macs, I
> >> found the basic stuff for new years in Mac Help was very useful.
> >
> > I was doing some stuff in System 7.0 last night in HyperCard - and I'd
> > forgotten how nifty Balloon Help was.
>
> Yes. I learnt all about how to use Eudora V.early *only* from the baloon
> help.

Ditto.

Rowland.

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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:55:10 +0000, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2010-01-22 15:38:23 +0000, Woody said:
>
>> I have a sparc to PS/2 keyboard adapter (by belkin I think), which was
>> quite handy when I used to that way. I am sure there are USB ones
>> available somewhere
>
>Type 7 keyboards are USB. I think... Get them before they get rebranded?

They're cheesy and light as well though. No fun.

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From: David Empson on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You can also choose to use a different keyboard, which has the
> > > > >> full range of keys including a separate "del" or "forward delete"
> > > > >> key. Apple has a full-sized USB keyboard, and most third party
> > > > >> USB keyboards also work on a Mac.
> > > > >
> > > > > Really? I've never found *one* non-Apple keyboard that gave me
> > > > > `eject'.
> > > > >
> > > > > How does one get that sort of thing to work with a non-Apple
> > > > > keyboard?
> > > >
> > > > It maps to one of the function keys.
> > >
> > > <puzzled>
> > >
> > > Well, I've got fn1-fn19.
> > >
> > > fn1-fn4, fn7-fn12 all have specific functions.
> > >
> > > Pressing - one at a time, for a count of 5 each - fn5, fn6, fn13-fn19,
> > > has just produced no eject from the optical drive (which contains a disc
> > > and no disc-using apps being active).
> > >
> > > Pressing the eject key for a count of about 1 or 2 got the `eject'
> > > symbol and a disc ejection.
> > >
> > > The eject key is sat between F12 and F13.
> > >
> > > <shrug>
> > >
> > > So which `fn' key does `eject' map to? And how does that enable a
> > > non-Apple keyboard to work on a Mac?
> >
> > You have a keyboard with a dedicated eject key, recognised by the Mac,
> > so it doesn't map "eject" to any of the numbered function keys.
>
> I once bought a keyboard designed for Macs. It had a dedicated eject
> key, which one would have assumed would be so recognised. Except it
> wasn't - but if its as obvious as you say to get it to work, what I saw
> wouldn't have happened. Would it?

Apple recognises all of their own keyboards, and the eject key on them
(which is what you have now). I can't say whether that extends to
third-party keyboards with an eject key, as I've never seen one.

Perhaps this particular keyboard needed a device driver to map the keys
correctly, or perhaps it worked at some point but Apple broke something
in a later system version which prevented it from being recognised
properly.

If the system didn't recognise the keyboard, it probably mapped eject to
F12 and ignored the eject key.

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