From: James Dore on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:26:48 -0000, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> On 22/01/2010 15:19, James Dore wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:13:54 -0000, Rowland McDonnell
>> <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>> I can't see any point in bulking out keyboards with keys that have no
>>> purpose in life, but there you go.
>>
>> Ah, you've used Sun Sparcstations then?!
>
>
> I have a sparcstation keyboard just here ->
>
> Lets see.. I like 'stop' and 'again'. Good key choices. As is 'Front'.
> Is 'Props' for properties, or is it like when you want to give credit to
> something? Compose is a good key when you have got yourself wound up.
>
> And a big key marked 'Help' should always be on every keyboard!
>

Oh yes - I like the keyboards, but since I got two other people in my
office, I don't have space for one. I really liked the old Type 5
keyboards, the ones that weighed a couple of kilos, but can't find one any
more.

Besides, unless you're handy with a soldering iron, they're no good on
anything useful.

Cheers,
--
James Dore
New College IT Officer
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From: Woody on
On 22/01/2010 15:31, James Dore wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:26:48 -0000, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 22/01/2010 15:19, James Dore wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:13:54 -0000, Rowland McDonnell
>>> <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> I can't see any point in bulking out keyboards with keys that have no
>>>> purpose in life, but there you go.
>>>
>>> Ah, you've used Sun Sparcstations then?!
>>
>>
>> I have a sparcstation keyboard just here ->
>>
>> Lets see.. I like 'stop' and 'again'. Good key choices. As is 'Front'.
>> Is 'Props' for properties, or is it like when you want to give credit
>> to something? Compose is a good key when you have got yourself wound up.
>>
>> And a big key marked 'Help' should always be on every keyboard!
>>
>
> Oh yes - I like the keyboards, but since I got two other people in my
> office, I don't have space for one. I really liked the old Type 5
> keyboards, the ones that weighed a couple of kilos, but can't find one
> any more.
>
> Besides, unless you're handy with a soldering iron, they're no good on
> anything useful.

I have a sparc to PS/2 keyboard adapter (by belkin I think), which was
quite handy when I used to that way. I am sure there are USB ones
available somewhere


--
Woody
From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> I use them a lot on PCs,

How?

> but I can't think of one program I use on the
> mac that uses them

I've only ever used F-keys on a BBC Micro and with Oolite, the Mac OS X
attempt at Elite.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> I can live with it - more than I can live with modern keyboards, that's
> >> for sure :-D
> >
> > You tried my rubber feet idea?
>
> Ooh, actually no, and I have a number of suitable candidates too. Will
> experiment. Thanks for the reminder!

Lessons I learnt:

Put the feet a fair way apart so the keyboard can flex easily when you
type.

Put the feet on the front side a bit back from the front (you know what
I mean) so that the keyboard can flex down as you type without
grounding, /but/ without raising the front edge more than you have to.

The purpose of that part of the exercise is to give the steepest
gradient from a given set of feet.

I've got small round rubber bumpers on the front, and big fat square
feet with a bumper stuck on top of each to give it a touch more
gradient.

The underside doesn't look pretty, but it's typing well.

Isopropyl alcohol is your friend.

Rowland.

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From: James Dore on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:40:09 -0000, Rowland McDonnell
<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> >
>> >> I can live with it - more than I can live with modern keyboards,
>> that's
>> >> for sure :-D
>> >
>> > You tried my rubber feet idea?
>>
>> Ooh, actually no, and I have a number of suitable candidates too. Will
>> experiment. Thanks for the reminder!
>
> Lessons I learnt:
>
> Put the feet a fair way apart so the keyboard can flex easily when you
> type.

Ok. Good job they're cheap, I might bend it :->

> Put the feet on the front side a bit back from the front (you know what
> I mean) so that the keyboard can flex down as you type without
> grounding, /but/ without raising the front edge more than you have to.

Aha. You stick the back ones on the USB ridge with the existing feet, yes?

> The purpose of that part of the exercise is to give the steepest
> gradient from a given set of feet.

Ok. Putting them outboard of the existing feet seems best, yes?

> I've got small round rubber bumpers on the front, and big fat square
> feet with a bumper stuck on top of each to give it a touch more
> gradient.
>
> The underside doesn't look pretty, but it's typing well.
>
> Isopropyl alcohol is your friend.

Oooooooh yeah.....

Cheers,
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New College IT Officer
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