From: Theodore Heise on
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:45:37 +0000 (UTC),
Sylvain Robitaille <syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:19:38 -0500, Theodore Heise wrote:
>
>> ... Pico will reformat a whole block of text preceded by any
>> number of the specified quote character and single spaces. If
>> there are multiple adjacent spaces, it treats this as a new
>> block. For probably better than 90% of the posts I reply to,
>> pico reformats blocks of text just fine. ...
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> If you let yourself get used to how this works in vim, I assure
> you you won't go back to pico ...
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One last try: I don't think they work any differently, except in a
few limited circumstances (multiple adjacent spaces, or different
character than specified).

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From: Lew Pitcher on
Sylvain Robitaille <syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca> trolled:

Er, Mr. Robitaille, it's Lou Dobbs on line one. Are you here?


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From: john on
On Nov 26, 2:23 am, Res <r...(a)ausics.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Jones wrote:
> >>> Reqest to Slackware installation media developers:
>
> >> That would be volke...(a)slackware.com
>
> > If one wanted to clog up Pat's email with such trivialities. Simple
> > posting to this NG should act as a low priority message-in-a-bottle.
>
> Nope, Pat does not read this NG, its full of wankers so why would he :)
> Pat alone has the only say of what goes into Slackware.
>
> He's kind of open to dicscussion, I had talked to him about a few programs
> I think should be in it by default (such as postfix, dovecot, and I threw
> in pureftpd as well for measure), he suggested those in slackbuilds, I
> then suggested that they are very mainstream programs and it would be
> beneficial to have them in the offical release, like most every other
> distro does (at least with postfix and dovecot), I guess we'll know in
> time if he deicdes to, but since that was over a month ago and there's no
> appearance in -current I dare say he isn't going to in the near future.
>
> >>> Midnight Commander would be nice too, and there is plenty of room on
>
> huh ?  'mc' is, and has been, in Slackware for a very *long* time.
>
> --
> Res
>
> "What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!

The modern version of vi is called Vim/Gvim. I have my copy programmed
so that the F keys do various
useful things such as call pdftex, call Context (both operating on my
standard master file name "book.tex")
call a pdf viewer using file "book.pdf", justify the text in Gvim for
ragged right etc. These F key assignments
allow me to typeset a TeX document in semi-WYSIWYG fashion.

I also find the syntax highlighting handy when writing programs. There
are about 120 languages set up and
you can set up your own if you choose.

Two programs I miss using Slack 13 are Kpdf and Quanta Plus. I have a
separate 12,2 partition just to support Quanta Plus.
And it goes without saying that I use XFCE instead of KDE4, for
reasons that should be painfully obvious.

John Culleton
From: Aaron W. Hsu on
"john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> writes:

>The modern version of vi is called Vim/Gvim.

Come on now. Elvis, Vim, and even Nvi are all still out there, and you
can't say that Vim is now the main alternative to the original Vi. Nvi
is the best alternative if you want Vi to be close to the original. Vim,
is a larger beast, and it's not the "new replacement."

Aaron W. Hsu
--
A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.
From: Eef Hartman on
Mike Jones <Not(a)arizona.bay> wrote:
> SysAdmin I may not be, but I've been using Linux for many years now, and
> have NEVER found anything as incantational and insanely obscure as Vi.
> (Apart from Emacs - Wince!)

Try setting up sendmail from scratch, without the m4 configs.
Then you really know what "obscure" and "unreadable" means.

In the early days, before all the m4 config files were created,
I had to make some custum changes in our sendmail setup (under
HP-UX unix, not Linux), but that really is a PITA.
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