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From: Lew Pitcher on 28 Nov 2009 17:23 Sylvain Robitaille <syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca> trolled: Sylvain Robitaille is French Canadien. LewPitcher(a)LewPitcher.ca -- Official Website -->> http://lewpitcher.ca/ Something to look at: -->> http://www.emusclemag.com/ Lonely in Brampton? -->> http://gaypros.meetup.com/cities/ca/on/brampton/ Peel HIV/AIDS Network -->> http://www.phan.ca/home.html
From: Aaron W. Hsu on 28 Nov 2009 17:52 helmut(a)hullen.de (Helmut Hullen) writes: >That time is long ago. Nowadays only few hardcore users recommend vi. >Most linux users I know use "mc" (and "mcedit"). >And I know more than 2 linux users. Much more. I know a University full of Linux users in the computer department. All of them know how to use Vi, and those that don't aren't using Linux. Emacs and Eclipse are the most popular editors though. Still, no one goes without knowing Vi. Aaron W. Hsu
From: Aaron W. Hsu on 28 Nov 2009 18:01 Mike Jones <Not(a)Arizona.Bay> writes: >Yes, it is. If we go back to my example situation where somebody with no >experience of Vi finds themselves with Vi as their only editor, the >chances they could either guess or trip over those key-strokes are >phenomenally low. Fallacy 1: It is unreasonable to expect someone managing their computer to learn something before disaster strikes. Fallacy 2: They have Vi as their only editor. F#1 happens only when the person in charge of the system is willfully ignorant. No one can be caught without knowing Vi unless they purposefully do not wish to learn before disaster hits. If that's the way they are, then they deserve the trouble they get. >Except for anything but Vi, those commands have some kind of accessible >logic to them, and are similar to just about every other editor on the >planet (Emacs excepted, as usual). Why should I have to learn such strange keys? Why should I have to learn anything to use my computer and make it do things? It should just do what I want the way I want it right now! >My point isn't that Vi is unusable It's plenty usable for those who learn it. If you can't learn Vi, then you either are purposefully not learning, or you can't possible have the mental capacity to recover your system in that manner. I have never met anyone who couldn't learn Vi. No one. My grandmother can learn it, too. Aaron W. Hsu
From: Glyn Millington on 28 Nov 2009 17:54 Lew Pitcher <lewpitcher(a)lewpitcher.ca> writes: > Glyn Millington <wistanswick(a)linuxmail.org> trolled: > >> Well, you are both lucky! The only time I have met another Linux user >> was four years ago when I had to visit the UK embassy in Poland, and was >> able to help one of the staff sort out their Samba problems. One other >> user in ten years. > > And what does this tell you? That the Poles are more sensible about software than we are in the UK? >> http://www.slackbook.org/ >> >> It really isn't hard! > > Why would you waste anybody's time pointing out this link? There is > not a single regular user who has even looked at this "book" Rubbish! It is an extremely useful source of basic information, produced by some of the regular posters here - and there is at least one very regular user who looks at it. It is currently being revised. > and the only time the book is discussed is when some newbie writes in > confused because the info in the "book" is either 10 years out of date, Impressive given that it is only four years old. > or just plain wrong. Where is it wrong? atb Glyn -- RTFM http://www.tldp.org/index.html GAFC http://slackbook.org/ The Official Source :-) STFW http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=alt.os.linux.slackware JFGI http://jfgi.us/
From: Lew Pitcher on 29 Nov 2009 00:13
Glyn Millington <wistanswick(a)linuxmail.org> trolled: > Lew Pitcher <lewpitcher(a)lewpitcher.ca> writes: >>> http://www.slackbook.org/ >> Why would you waste anybody's time pointing out this link? There is >> not a single regular user who has even looked at this "book" > > Rubbish! It is an extremely useful source of basic information, produced > by some of the regular posters here - and there is at least one very > regular user who looks at it. It is currently being revised. Any users who participated in the production of this book, including The Coward, are not "regular" anything. >> and the only time the book is discussed is when some newbie >> writes in confused because the info in the "book" is either 10 >> years out of date, > Impressive given that it is only four years old. It is quite easy for a four year old book to be 10 years out of date. After all, it was allegedly written, at least partially, by the original lizella hillbilly, The Coward Hicks, who is one of the mutt/slrn/links crowd. > Where is it wrong? The title page, to begin with. LewPitcher(a)LewPitcher.ca -- Official Website -->> http://lewpitcher.ca/ Something to look at: -->> http://www.emusclemag.com/ Lonely in Brampton? -->> http://gaypros.meetup.com/cities/ca/on/brampton/ Peel HIV/AIDS Network -->> http://www.phan.ca/home.html |