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From: Peter Ceresole on 28 Apr 2010 18:17 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > The law on this is pretty complex. In the UK the default situation is > > that intellectual property that you create in the course of your > > employment is owned by the employer unless there is a specific clause > > saying otherwise. > > It occurs to me that that was *NOT* the case when I started working as a > journo in, erm '93 IIRC. I was working in TV journalism from 1964 to 1996. It was definitely the default throughout that time. -- Peter
From: Rowland McDonnell on 28 Apr 2010 19:05 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > The law on this is pretty complex. In the UK the default situation is > > > that intellectual property that you create in the course of your > > > employment is owned by the employer unless there is a specific clause > > > saying otherwise. > > > > It occurs to me that that was *NOT* the case when I started working as a > > journo in, erm '93 IIRC. > > I was working in TV journalism from 1964 to 1996. It was definitely the > default throughout that time. Which law said so? - when I started work, the default position was that you owned your own writing unless you explicitly gave away your copyright, so everyone told me. Rowland. (aware that different rules apply to print media than to television) -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Peter Ceresole on 29 Apr 2010 02:41 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > I was working in TV journalism from 1964 to 1996. It was definitely the > > default throughout that time. > > Which law said so? My con tract said so. So did the contract of everybody else I knew, in any organisation. -- Peter
From: Woody on 29 Apr 2010 02:55 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > The law on this is pretty complex. In the UK the default situation is > > > > that intellectual property that you create in the course of your > > > > employment is owned by the employer unless there is a specific clause > > > > saying otherwise. > > > > > > It occurs to me that that was *NOT* the case when I started working as a > > > journo in, erm '93 IIRC. > > > > I was working in TV journalism from 1964 to 1996. It was definitely the > > default throughout that time. > > Which law said so? > > - when I started work, the default position was that you owned your own > writing unless you explicitly gave away your copyright, so everyone told > me. How would that actually work then? So when you left the company they would have to go through their archives to remove all the stories that you wrote? Or have to get in contact with you again to ask you if they could reprint? Also does that not mean that if you wrote something and it got popular, you could withdraw it from them and give it to someone else who paid you again for it. I realy don't see how that could work in business. It certainly wouldn't be the norm (and couldn't work) in any other form of business. -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 29 Apr 2010 07:40
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:55:25 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: >Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > >> Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: >> > >> > > > The law on this is pretty complex. In the UK the default situation is >> > > > that intellectual property that you create in the course of your >> > > > employment is owned by the employer unless there is a specific clause >> > > > saying otherwise. >> > > >> > > It occurs to me that that was *NOT* the case when I started working as a >> > > journo in, erm '93 IIRC. >> > >> > I was working in TV journalism from 1964 to 1996. It was definitely the >> > default throughout that time. >> >> Which law said so? >> >> - when I started work, the default position was that you owned your own >> writing unless you explicitly gave away your copyright, so everyone told >> me. > >How would that actually work then? So when you left the company they >would have to go through their archives to remove all the stories that >you wrote? Or have to get in contact with you again to ask you if they >could reprint? >Also does that not mean that if you wrote something and it got popular, >you could withdraw it from them and give it to someone else who paid you >again for it. It's the paying-for that is the moment of handover. The payment will be subject to a contract, and the contract will either hand your copyright over to the purchasor or if you keep them, forbid you from republishing it for a period. The whole thing is straight contractual obligations. Cheers - Jaimie -- Once I drove so fast that my friend, who was pregnant, started having Lorentz contractions. "Ahah," you might ask, "but how far apart were they?" - Adam Fineman, rgrn |