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From: Pd on 26 Apr 2010 11:17 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > [Wage slavery in one of its more odious manifestations, is that, and > > one reason I'll never work for IBM or similar. > > I also refuse to work for IBM. I'm still waiting for the job offer so I > can actually tell them I refuse, but in the meantime I can refuse > without it. IBM refused to work with me. I went for a job interview as a "Systems Engineer", sat through a bunch of aptitude tests and got such high marks <preen> that the HR guy got all excited and set up an interview the same afternoon with the recruiting manager. The manager told me IBM had come a long way and you didn't have to wear pure white shirts any more, looked at my earrings and didn't offer me the job. -- Pd
From: Woody on 26 Apr 2010 11:25 Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > [Wage slavery in one of its more odious manifestations, is that, and > > > one reason I'll never work for IBM or similar. > > > > I also refuse to work for IBM. I'm still waiting for the job offer so I > > can actually tell them I refuse, but in the meantime I can refuse > > without it. > > IBM refused to work with me. I went for a job interview as a "Systems > Engineer", sat through a bunch of aptitude tests and got such high marks > <preen> that the HR guy got all excited and set up an interview the same > afternoon with the recruiting manager. > > The manager told me IBM had come a long way and you didn't have to wear > pure white shirts any more, looked at my earrings and didn't offer me > the job. You wore the wrong earings to an IBM interview? It wasn't the microsoft earings was it? -- Woody
From: Chris Ridd on 26 Apr 2010 11:26 On 2010-04-26 16:17:32 +0100, Pd said: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>> [Wage slavery in one of its more odious manifestations, is that, and >>> one reason I'll never work for IBM or similar. >> >> I also refuse to work for IBM. I'm still waiting for the job offer so I >> can actually tell them I refuse, but in the meantime I can refuse >> without it. > > IBM refused to work with me. I went for a job interview as a "Systems > Engineer", sat through a bunch of aptitude tests and got such high marks > <preen> that the HR guy got all excited and set up an interview the same > afternoon with the recruiting manager. > > The manager told me IBM had come a long way and you didn't have to wear > pure white shirts any more, looked at my earrings and didn't offer me > the job. He didn't get as far as your trousers? -- Chris
From: Rowland McDonnell on 26 Apr 2010 11:29 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > I also refuse to work for IBM. I'm still waiting for the job offer so I > > can actually tell them I refuse, but in the meantime I can refuse > > without it. > > That is, of course, your privilege. I came across IBM in a serious way > (as opposed to once buying one of their extremely fragile laptops) at > the preparation for the Atlanta Olympics. They (and Swatch) were the two > highlights; Swatch because they, among all those hideously serious > American corporate participants, were actually fun (and competent) and > IBM because they were stringing together many levels of complicated > software and after day one, it actually worked. Plus they were fairly > humourless, but quite free of bullshit. The fact that IBM is a successful business which meets its contracts for its customers has no bearing at all on the appallingly shitty way it unfairly exploits its workers using contracts that I find sickening. So I'm not sure why you should bring up your example at all - it's quite irrelevant. What's relevant is that IBM takes ownership of your thoughts when you sign a contract to work as an IBM employee. All your thoughts belong to IBM - all of them. All your creativity is owned by IBM once you've signed up to take their pay. If you are a creative person who does not mind being forced to give away all your rights to all your ideas, not just the ones you come up with on the firm's time and for the firm's projects, I'm sure that's acceptable to you. But some of us think that it's grossly unjust for a firm to claim such ownership. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Woody on 26 Apr 2010 11:32
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-26 16:17:32 +0100, Pd said: > > > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > >> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> [Wage slavery in one of its more odious manifestations, is that, and > >>> one reason I'll never work for IBM or similar. > >> > >> I also refuse to work for IBM. I'm still waiting for the job offer so I > >> can actually tell them I refuse, but in the meantime I can refuse > >> without it. > > > > IBM refused to work with me. I went for a job interview as a "Systems > > Engineer", sat through a bunch of aptitude tests and got such high marks > > <preen> that the HR guy got all excited and set up an interview the same > > afternoon with the recruiting manager. > > > > The manager told me IBM had come a long way and you didn't have to wear > > pure white shirts any more, looked at my earrings and didn't offer me > > the job. > > He didn't get as far as your trousers? I don't think that IBM perform *that* sort of interview! -- Woody |