From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > > > As an analogy, that fails in so many ways. The sort-of similarity is
> > > > > that Google is as ubiquitous as a search engine as Microsoft was as a
> > > > > personal computer operating system.
> > > >
> > > > ... and the fact now Apple and Google now square up for dominance over
> > > > technology in the way Apple and Microsoft did,
> > >
> > > Really? I don't see it.
> > >
> > > Where's the Apple-search-engine-driving-ad-revenue?
> >
> > Its actually iPhone driving ad revenue at the moment:
> >
> > <http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/08/apple-announces-iad-mobile-advertising
> > -platform/>
>
> Which isn't comparable to what Google does - that's advertising to make
> more money from a specific bit of hardware, rather than doing what
> Google does, which is rather more pervasive: Google's doing its best to
> take a cut of as many different ways of serving ads as possible.
>
> Get my drift? Google's aiming at world domination of at least part of
> the advertising world; Apple's just doing a job of figuring out another
> way to make money out of one particular bit of hardware.
>
> There's no competition between the two in this case.
>
> > > Nowhere.
> > >
> > > Where's the Google-ecosystem-driving-the-sales-of-Google-made-hardware?
> >
> > <http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/>
>
> That's not exactly a Google phone, is it? Made my HTC corporation -
> where did the design come from?

One of those on that page is the google phone, the nexus one.

Designed by HTC for google, sold direcly by google here
<http://www.google.com/phone>



--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: R on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> You wore the wrong earings to an IBM interview? It wasn't the microsoft
> earings was it?

These ones?

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/floppy_disk_earr
ings1.jpg
From: R on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> It was why he wrote TeX - so he could typeset his books without the
> typesetters making a horrible mess of them (as they had been doing - he
> was driven to write TeX due to frustration with poor quality work done
> by others). TeX's just a side-show for Knuth - last major update in
> 1983[1], last bug fix I heard of was the obY2K fix (very minor, not
> needed to permit TeX to function, just a messed up data log issue).

Yes. I used to have Concrete Mathematics (one of the co-authors
of which was Knuth) and the remarkable typsetting was evident in
that. It was, I might add, a wonderful book, very idiosyncratic in its
approach. The paper was designed to last at least 200 years, IIRC
(I rarely do!). The book was typset with TeX with experimental fonts
(e.g. AMS Euler). And, if you found an error in the book, the authors
would pay you for bringing it to their attention! The reward is still
available:

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/gkp.html

An error found will earn you 0x$1.00 (= $2.56)
From: Richard Tobin on
In article <1jhl8dv.f36fosjz5ui5N%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

>> The gross injustice is the ownership of ideas.

>[comments largely about copyright]

Copyright isn't the ownership of ideas; it covers expression rather
than the ideas themselves, though sometimes it is extended too far in
that direction.

It's patents that are the real problem. You can have an idea and
not be allowed to use it because someone else had it first, or rather
patented it first.

It would be nice if people who had good ideas were always rewarded.
(It would also be nice if people who were kind to animals and helped
old ladies across the road were always rewarded.) But does the gain
outweigh the cost? The patent system more often rewards large
corporations and inhibits creative individuals.

-- Richard
From: Dorian Gray on
In article <4bd5e67c$0$2525$da0feed9(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
"Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:

> "Bruce Horrocks" <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote in message
> news:83m24uF48uU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >
> > A friend of mine, years ago when leaving university, refused to work for
> > British Aerospace (as they were then) and went for some firm whose name
> > I've since forgotten. After a while his employers were bought out by
> > someone larger, and then again, and then again until, eventually, after
> > having worked for six different companies without ever moving desk, they
> > were eventually bought out by BAe. At which point he resigned. :-)
>
> There was a similar story in the late 60's about a chap who was really
> skilled at designing capacitors, and who worked for a small company.
> Phillips offered him a spectacular contract, but he declined. In the end
> Phillips bought the small company - so he resigned!

These days, to avoid this kind of thing happening, an acquiring company
in such a situation will always make it a condition of the sale that the
technical team of the company being acquired remain intact for n years,
where n is often 2.
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