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From: D from BC on 9 Jul 2010 21:04 In article <4c9b3913-d518-416a-aabb-4187566614e6 @i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, wrongaddress(a)att.net says... > Well, there are quite a few terrorists trying to kill everybody in the > name of religion that have engineering degrees. Case in point would be > Mohamed Atta who masterminded the 911 attack. He was doing God's work > using well known physics principles. > > http://www.slate.com/id/2240157 > > "The anecdotal evidence has always been strong. The mastermind of the > 9/11 attacks, Mohamed Atta, was an architectural engineer. Khalid > Sheikh Mohamed got his degree in mechanical engineering. Two of the > three founders of Lashkar-e-Taibi, the group believed to be behind the > Mumbai attacks, were professors at the University of Engineering and > Technology in Lahore." > > -Bill > Religion + engineering = too risky to hire. Atheist engineers are less risky to hire. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: krw on 9 Jul 2010 22:37 On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:04:00 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <4c9b3913-d518-416a-aabb-4187566614e6 >@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, wrongaddress(a)att.net says... >> Well, there are quite a few terrorists trying to kill everybody in the >> name of religion that have engineering degrees. Case in point would be >> Mohamed Atta who masterminded the 911 attack. He was doing God's work >> using well known physics principles. >> >> http://www.slate.com/id/2240157 >> >> "The anecdotal evidence has always been strong. The mastermind of the >> 9/11 attacks, Mohamed Atta, was an architectural engineer. Khalid >> Sheikh Mohamed got his degree in mechanical engineering. Two of the >> three founders of Lashkar-e-Taibi, the group believed to be behind the >> Mumbai attacks, were professors at the University of Engineering and >> Technology in Lahore." >> >> -Bill >> > >Religion + engineering = too risky to hire. >Atheist engineers are less risky to hire. Clearly you're a counterexample.
From: m II on 10 Jul 2010 12:11 D from BC wrote: > It's risky to hire a Christian engineer because part of their brain is > science denial or anti-science. > YOu don't get a full engineer if part of an engineer's brain is clogged > up science denial wrapped around Christian beliefs such as demons (Jesus > removed demons), witches(See Exodus), unicorns(9 times in bible), magic > staff (Moses), magic birth(Jesus), magic food(Jesus), magic whale > (Jonah),magic boat(Noah), magic deaths(Egyptian first born), magic lands > (heaven,hell) or a magic maker made with magic (God). > > Christian engineers are ridiculous in using science in engineering but > don't use science on their faith. =============================================== Science is and should be seen as �completely neutral� on the issue of the theistic or atheistic implications of scientific results, says Father George V. Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, while noting that �science and religion are totally separate pursuits.� http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=18524 =============================================== mike
From: D from BC on 10 Jul 2010 23:17 In article <4c389bca$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, c(a)in.the.hat says... > > D from BC wrote: > > > It's risky to hire a Christian engineer because part of their brain is > > science denial or anti-science. > > YOu don't get a full engineer if part of an engineer's brain is clogged > > up science denial wrapped around Christian beliefs such as demons (Jesus > > removed demons), witches(See Exodus), unicorns(9 times in bible), magic > > staff (Moses), magic birth(Jesus), magic food(Jesus), magic whale > > (Jonah),magic boat(Noah), magic deaths(Egyptian first born), magic lands > > (heaven,hell) or a magic maker made with magic (God). > > > > Christian engineers are ridiculous in using science in engineering but > > don't use science on their faith. > > =============================================== > Science is and should be seen as ?completely neutral? on the issue of > the theistic or atheistic implications of scientific results, says > Father George V. Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, while > noting that ?science and religion are totally separate pursuits.? > > http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=18524 > =============================================== > > > > > mike Engineers that believe in Christianity fall into the same category as: Doctors that believe in voodoo. Chemists that believe in alchemy. Astronomers that believe in astrology. Geologists that believe in a 10000 year old earth. Pilots that believe in alien UFOs. Biologists that believe in big foot. Hiring a Christian engineer is as ridiculous as seeing a doctor that believes in voodoo. What one believes demonstrates how well that person processes information. A brain that rationalizes demons(Jesus removed demons), people made by magic(Adam+Eve), magic talking serpent(Eden), magic lands(Eden), magic boat (Noah), magic water walking(Jesus) ..etc is a brain with an inability to dismiss information with zero evidence. Christianity + engineering = susceptibility to delusion Susceptibility to delusion is not a good trait in engineering. A person that can believe in anything (magic in the bible) has the potential to believe in the craziest things in engineering which can lead to failed projects, accidents or other dangers. It's no good to have faith a transistor won't overheat. It's better to know as fact a transistor won't overheat and one can prove it. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 11 Jul 2010 17:40
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26a2d798de3e943298987f(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <4c389bca$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, c(a)in.the.hat says... >> >> D from BC wrote: >> >> > It's risky to hire a Christian engineer because part of their brain is >> > science denial or anti-science. >> > YOu don't get a full engineer if part of an engineer's brain is clogged >> > up science denial wrapped around Christian beliefs such as demons >> > (Jesus >> > removed demons), witches(See Exodus), unicorns(9 times in bible), magic >> > staff (Moses), magic birth(Jesus), magic food(Jesus), magic whale >> > (Jonah),magic boat(Noah), magic deaths(Egyptian first born), magic >> > lands >> > (heaven,hell) or a magic maker made with magic (God). >> > >> > Christian engineers are ridiculous in using science in engineering but >> > don't use science on their faith. >> >> =============================================== >> Science is and should be seen as ?completely neutral? on the issue of >> the theistic or atheistic implications of scientific results, says >> Father George V. Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, while >> noting that ?science and religion are totally separate pursuits.? >> >> http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=18524 >> =============================================== >> >> >> >> >> mike > > Engineers that believe in Christianity fall into the same category as: > Doctors that believe in voodoo. > Chemists that believe in alchemy. > Astronomers that believe in astrology. > Geologists that believe in a 10000 year old earth. > Pilots that believe in alien UFOs. > Biologists that believe in big foot. > > Hiring a Christian engineer is as ridiculous as seeing a doctor that > believes in voodoo. > What one believes demonstrates how well that person processes > information. > A brain that rationalizes demons(Jesus removed demons), people made by > magic(Adam+Eve), magic talking serpent(Eden), magic lands(Eden), magic > boat (Noah), magic water walking(Jesus) ..etc is a brain with an > inability to dismiss information with zero evidence. > Christianity + engineering = susceptibility to delusion > Susceptibility to delusion is not a good trait in engineering. > A person that can believe in anything (magic in the bible) has the > potential to believe in the craziest things in engineering which can > lead to failed projects, accidents or other dangers. > It's no good to have faith a transistor won't overheat. > It's better to know as fact a transistor won't overheat and one can > prove it. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia But do you need to test every transistor to its failure point to know it is good? If so, no product could get out because all have been destroyed by testing it to destruction. Or perhaps it's sensible to test a few to destruction, get some typical sample data, and take it by faith that the transistor will work as designed. A Christian has a very real encounter with God, they don't physically see him but when they receive eternal life something comes alive in them, they know it, they feel it. It's sort of like a man that works as a groundskeeper or maintenance for the Statue of Liberty, someone that doesn't believe in the Statue of Liberty isn't going to get very far in trying to convince him that it doesn't exist. That's why there are good electronic designers that are Christians, they have a very real personal relationship with their Creator though they can't explain it. Going back to the Statue of Liberty analogy, perhaps the groundskeeper doesn't know every detail of how, when, where it was constructed, how much it weighs, etc. But he just knows it's there, he spends 40 hours a week with it, some twit that has never seen it isn't going to convince him that it doesn't exist, no mater how many times the twit tells him he's ridiculous to believe in it. The difference is that he can take you to the Statue of Liberty and show it to you. A person can lead you to Christ but you won't experience him unless you open the door to him, he won't bust it in and force you to believe. RogerN |