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From: RogerN on 3 Jun 2010 19:42 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2670bd8c8f11c386989860(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <Kp6dnT-mRN5Hb5vRnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> I see your mind is made up and don't bother you with facts! On the > > Physical evidence is more convincing than personal experience evidence. > People lie. > Physical evidence is harder to falsify. > Where is the xray of the fish or whale showing comfy living conditions > for a human inside?? > >> broadcast he tells of a couple of modern day incidents, giving names > and >> all, of where a person was swallowed by a fish or whale (not sure if >> Jonah >> separates them), and was recovered unconscious inside the fish a couple >> of > > Whales and fish do not have large air spaces along their > gastrointestinal tract. > The Jonah story is effective on people totally ignorant of marine > biology and evolution. OK, fine, then explain how people have survived 2 days inside a fish. The message I provided a link to gives names and dates, but it seems you are more interested in your religion than scientific fact. There has been shipwrecks since the time of Jonah, and fish have eaten people since that time. Some of the fish that were being sought were caught and cut open, and the person they ate was found unconscious inside the fish, and survived 2 days after being eaten. RogerN
From: D from BC on 4 Jun 2010 02:05 In article <u7ydncRQQbt9oJXRnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.2670bd8c8f11c386989860(a)209.197.12.12... > > In article <Kp6dnT-mRN5Hb5vRnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > > regor(a)midwest.net says... > >> I see your mind is made up and don't bother you with facts! On the > > > > Physical evidence is more convincing than personal experience evidence. > > People lie. > > Physical evidence is harder to falsify. > > Where is the xray of the fish or whale showing comfy living conditions > > for a human inside?? > > > >> broadcast he tells of a couple of modern day incidents, giving names > > and > >> all, of where a person was swallowed by a fish or whale (not sure if > >> Jonah > >> separates them), and was recovered unconscious inside the fish a couple > >> of > > > > Whales and fish do not have large air spaces along their > > gastrointestinal tract. > > The Jonah story is effective on people totally ignorant of marine > > biology and evolution. > > OK, fine, then explain how people have survived 2 days inside a fish. The Lying. People have been making up untrue stories since language started. > message I provided a link to gives names and dates, but it seems you The link you provided is for: http://www.oneplace.com/player/thru-the-bible-with-j-vernon-mcgee/jonah- 21-6-102001.html The windbag starts with testimonies at +10minutes. NO biological documentation is sited for a breathable atmosphere in the gastrointestinal tract of a large fish or whale. Get other links. > more interested in your religion than scientific fact. There has been There is no marine biology evidence. There's no breathable atmosphere in the gastrointestinal tract of whales or fish. This is testable by having a whale or large fish swallow a small robot with a camera and sensors. Christians get the bill. > shipwrecks since the time of Jonah, and fish have eaten people since that > time. Some of the fish that were being sought were caught and cut open, and > the person they ate was found unconscious inside the fish, and survived 2 > days after being eaten. More lying. There's no breathable atmosphere in the gastro. tract of whales or fish. After being swallowed -by a whale or fish- there's no air to breath and the human brain begins to die (hypoxia) after 5 minutes. > > RogerN Christian engineers are ridiculous to believe anything from Christian radio stations. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 4 Jun 2010 21:55 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2672377eaaf6b72989862(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <u7ydncRQQbt9oJXRnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.2670bd8c8f11c386989860(a)209.197.12.12... >> > In article <Kp6dnT-mRN5Hb5vRnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> I see your mind is made up and don't bother you with facts! On the >> > >> > Physical evidence is more convincing than personal experience evidence. >> > People lie. >> > Physical evidence is harder to falsify. >> > Where is the xray of the fish or whale showing comfy living conditions >> > for a human inside?? >> > >> >> broadcast he tells of a couple of modern day incidents, giving names >> > and >> >> all, of where a person was swallowed by a fish or whale (not sure if >> >> Jonah >> >> separates them), and was recovered unconscious inside the fish a >> >> couple >> >> of >> > >> > Whales and fish do not have large air spaces along their >> > gastrointestinal tract. >> > The Jonah story is effective on people totally ignorant of marine >> > biology and evolution. >> >> OK, fine, then explain how people have survived 2 days inside a fish. >> The > > Lying. > People have been making up untrue stories since language started. > >> message I provided a link to gives names and dates, but it seems you > > The link you provided is for: > http://www.oneplace.com/player/thru-the-bible-with-j-vernon-mcgee/jonah- > 21-6-102001.html > The windbag starts with testimonies at +10minutes. > NO biological documentation is sited for a breathable atmosphere in the > gastrointestinal tract of a large fish or whale. > Get other links. > >> more interested in your religion than scientific fact. There has been > > There is no marine biology evidence. > There's no breathable atmosphere in the gastrointestinal tract of whales > or fish. > This is testable by having a whale or large fish swallow a small robot > with a camera and sensors. Christians get the bill. > >> shipwrecks since the time of Jonah, and fish have eaten people since that >> time. Some of the fish that were being sought were caught and cut open, >> and >> the person they ate was found unconscious inside the fish, and survived 2 >> days after being eaten. > > More lying. > There's no breathable atmosphere in the gastro. tract of whales or fish. > After being swallowed -by a whale or fish- there's no air to breath and > the human brain begins to die (hypoxia) after 5 minutes. > >> >> RogerN > > Christian engineers are ridiculous to believe anything from Christian > radio stations. > > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia So, are you saying that you agree with the pastor that Jonah didn't live inside the fish, but died and God raised him from the dead? Just like Jesus saying as Jonah was he would be dead and rise again? RogerN
From: RogerN on 5 Jun 2010 07:04 "RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote in message news:g5GdnUqTuPsxM5TRnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.2672377eaaf6b72989862(a)209.197.12.12... >> In article <u7ydncRQQbt9oJXRnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> regor(a)midwest.net says... <snip> You're always saying God could have left a sign such a "Made by God" or something like that. I think he did something like that but you are unable to read it. The Old Testament is full of stories, foretelling, foreshadowing, and everything else about Jesus. The folks that wrote the Old Testament rejected Jesus but they still have the Old Testament as their scripture. Their own scripture even tells they would reject him, they are a blind to it as you are. Bottom line is that through hundreds of prophecies and fulfilled prophecies God did better than a "Made by God" stamp and you reject it. If there was "Made by God" stamped on the moon or written in the stars you would probably claim aliens did it or the religious formed the alphabet and defined the language so that the natural pattern in the stars would mean "Made by God". Then you would be claiming God could have told of future events and they would be fulfilled as told as a sign. So, no matter what sign God would give us, you would reject it and claim that it should have been some other sign. RogerN
From: D from BC on 6 Jun 2010 19:48
In article <vKKdnVjjbZuwspfRnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > You're always saying God could have left a sign such a "Made by God" or > something like that. I think he did something like that but you are unable > to read it. God is responsible for creating atheists and multiple religions by NOT leaving a massive impenetrable unanalyzable object with an inscription 'Made by God'. If God put a God signed unnatural object on a natural world then the CONTRAST will be clear to mutated ape brains that there is a magical mutated ape brain creator. " All the monoliths are black, extremely flat, non-reflective cuboids whose dimensions are in the precise ratio 1:4:9 (the squares of the first three integers). These dimensions are the main source of debate regarding the monoliths' simple external design. It is suggested in the novel that this number series does not stop at three dimensions.[1]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith_(Space_Odyssey) > > The Old Testament is full of stories, foretelling, foreshadowing, and > everything else about Jesus. > The folks that wrote the Old Testament rejected Jesus but they still have > the Old Testament as their scripture. Their own scripture even tells they > would reject him, they are a blind to it as you are. It's very hard to fake a massive indestructible enscribed 'Made by God' monolith. A God monolith can be tested. It's effortless for desert people to make imaginative bible scriptures. Bible stories fail testing. Ex: God flooding the earth fails testing. > > Bottom line is that through hundreds of prophecies and fulfilled prophecies > God did better than a "Made by God" stamp and you reject it. If there was A massive God signed monolith is better evidence than bible prophecy. Prophecies recorded are discredited by coming from the hands of potentially fraudulent humans. A massive God signed monolith is independent of humans. Humans play no part in a monolith made by God as frogs play no role in designing your car. Christian prophecies are also biased. The bible prophecies always contain content significant to Christians. The prophecies are not outside Christianity. The lack of bible prophecies being independent of Christianity makes the prophecies biased. The bias exists for faith boosting and indoctrination. Prophecy(magic predictions) in bible scripture is a self serving sales brochure. The Christian sales brochure -scripture- aims to persuade and indoctrinate people into Christianity. Bible prophecies work to indoctrinate because bible prophecies are impossible to verify. A Christian motto should be: 'All things untestable are useful for God belief.' Name a Christian prophecy that is irrelevant to Christians,time goes by, and the prophecy is confirmed by non-Christian historians. Ex: The bible prophecy is that a Hindu historian will record that the first kangaroos will arrive at the India zoo in 301. > "Made by God" stamped on the moon or written in the stars you would > probably > claim aliens did it or the religious formed the alphabet and defined the > language so that the natural pattern in the stars would mean "Made by God". > Then you would be claiming God could have told of future events and they > would be fulfilled as told as a sign. So, no matter what sign God would > give us, you would reject it and claim that it should have been some other > sign. > > RogerN > You are showing your lack faith in God. You lack faith in God's super duper creation skills. SuperGod can make indisputable evidence for God. God can convince the globe by putting on earth a single artificial _________. Perhaps an indestructible monolith that plays a recording of the time God orders Adam (God's garden helper) to name thousands of mammals, reptiles and marine life. Christian engineers are ridiculous to make a distinction between a God created universe compared to a naturally formed universe. -- D from BC British Columbia |