Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: hhyapster on 7 Jul 2008 23:56 On Jul 7, 11:35 pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > >>> There is always possession .... > > > >> And actually the one thing we do know about spirit, is that is i NOT > > > >> limited to an earthly body, so it can move independently of it if it > > > >> wants. > > > > > The spirit of a human being wants to stay in the body because that is > > > > the best place for it until the person dies. > > > > Where in the body is it housed? > > > The entire body. > > Robert B. Winn > > That's adorable! A child scientist educating us atheists about spirits! > > Tell me, Bobby, just how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin? This is not correct. Are you trying to assume that he has seen one and that he could tell you the answer?
From: Smiler on 7 Jul 2008 23:56 "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message news:6desj2F27amuU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > "The Natural Philosopher" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:1215427919.25085.1(a)proxy01.news.clara.net... >> BuddyThunder wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Jul 6, 11:04?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>>> Alex W. wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:b9d055c5-7a5b-4534-9703-63f1e75e9648(a)56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> Your spirit is made of spirit. ?You cannot transplant it. >>>>>> ======= >>>>>> There is always possession .... >>>>> And actually the one thing we do know about spirit, is that is i NOT >>>>> limited to an earthly body, so it can move independently of it if it >>>>> wants. >>>>> >>>>> So yet one more lie from robbo. >>>> >>>> The spirit of a human being wants to stay in the body because that is >>>> the best place for it until the person dies. >>> >>> Where in the body is it housed? >> >> In the same place a program is housed in a computer? > > In the hard drive? > Or in the floppy ;-) Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:01 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:48715d87$1(a)clear.net.nz... > rbwinn wrote: >> On Jul 6, 11:11 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Jul 6, 2:46 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:e765a085-e079-4808-aa79-7244fc499d79(a)25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:53?am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:62956527-c824-415d-93ab-cdbf47127a02(a)k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 9:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> For the umpteenth time, we cannot tell Jesus anything. >>>>>>>> If he existed at all, he died nearly 2,000 years ago. >>>>>>>> Apart from an alleged brief visit shortly afterward, he hasn't been >>>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>> since. >>>>>>>> How can we tell him anything, huh? >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, it is called prayer. ?Christians are commanded to pray. >>>>>>> ==================== >>>>>>> And you're sure your prayer gets through ... even though no-one in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> history of Christian prayer has ever answered. ?You know, if I dial >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> number >>>>>>> and get no connection, I may try a few more times, but sooner or >>>>>>> later I >>>>>>> realise that there's no phone at the other end .... >>>>>> Well, mine get answered. What made you think they were not? >>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>> You're confusion in just about everything leads us to that conclusion. >>>>> Ever had a prayer that hasn't been answered?? >>>>> No wait, I get it, you'll probably tell me it has always been >>>>> answered, but >>>>> not in the way you wanted. >>>>> We hear that all of the time. >>>>> Classic example of self-deception. >>>>> -- >>>>> Steve O >>>> Some people just cannot take no for an answer. Well, we know atheists >>>> have an agenda. >>> we don't. >>> >>> What I cannot personally understand is how atheists >>> >>>> expect to be able to run their agenda on God. It is just not going to >>>> work. >>> The exact meaning of atheism is 'without reference to (a) god'. >>> >>> Christians think that atheists don't believe in God. That's not true. >>> Atheists simply don't use belief at all. God is ignored as being too >>> loose a concept to be of practical value. >>> >>> Atheists do not give a toss about Christians or what they believe except >>> when they insist of injecting their nonsense into other peoples minds. >>> >> You mean like atheists do with the school system? > > Why do you find education so objectionable? He worships ignorance. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:09 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6dehnlF25fvnU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > <hhyapster(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:6104bae3-7547-488d-a4a3-d51e1615fb15(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 5, 6:53 pm, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:62956527-c824-415d-93ab-cdbf47127a02(a)k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jul 4, 9:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>> >>> > For the umpteenth time, we cannot tell Jesus anything. >>> > If he existed at all, he died nearly 2,000 years ago. >>> > Apart from an alleged brief visit shortly afterward, he hasn't been >>> > seen >>> > since. >>> > How can we tell him anything, huh? >>> >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Well, it is called prayer. Christians are commanded to pray. >>> >>> ==================== >>> >>> And you're sure your prayer gets through ... even though no-one in the >>> history of Christian prayer has ever answered. You know, if I dial a >>> number >>> and get no connection, I may try a few more times, but sooner or later I >>> realise that there's no phone at the other end .... >> >> The real trouble is, Alex, the loon never even try to dial. >> Worse, a lot of them dialed but no tone or connection and still think >> the number is right. >> They tried and tried and tried.....until the last breath, still no >> connection.....sad. > > That's not the real trouble. > They do try to dial. Again and again and again. > And then they dial their own number and end up speaking to themselves -- a > closed loop that will always deliver the answers already present in the > questioner's mind. It's the perfect conversation .... > I would hardly describe talking to oneself as the "perfect conversation". It's more like the perfect description of lunacy. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:13
"Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message news:6d90ciF1e560U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message > news:03bf56d3-b444-4a0c-998b-880bcd9a17d9(a)l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 4, 9:35?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:2efb0043-fcce-424b-9881-> >>> > >>> >>> God has never commanded me to do anything at any time. >>> I've never even met the guy. >>> Therefore, I have never disobeyed him. >>> As it is your belief that sin is when someone disobeys God, then I have >>> never sinned. >>> So does that mean I get to go to heaven? >>> >>> -- >>> Steve O >> >> No, atheists like you and Josef Stalin do not accept the atonement of >> Christ for your sins. > > You have already claimed that I have committed no sin, because by your > definition, sin is the wilful disobedience of God > I have never wilfully disobeyed God because I have never once received any > command, request or instruction from him. > If I have never sinned, then I have no sins to atone for, therefore you > are wrong. > >> Therefore you have to pay the penalty for them >> yourself. > > What sins? > How can I pay a penalty for sins I have never committed? > > You haven't really thought this one out, have you? > You are either going to have to disagree that your definition of sin is > wrong, or I have never committed a sin. > Which one is it? > He appears to have run away. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |