Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:18 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:b4f48e95-5c3a-4a56-b402-3e040c8b38bd(a)34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 5, 8:30 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 7:29?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:26:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > wrote > > > in alt.atheism: > > > > >On Jul 4, 8:42?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> wrote > > > >> in alt.atheism: > > > > >> >On Jul 4, 3:03?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > > > >> >> Alex W. wrote: > > > >> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > >> >> >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > >> >> > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >> >> >>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > >> >> >> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more > > > >> >> >> miserable in > > > >> >> >> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > > > > >> >> >> =========== > > > > >> >> >> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the > > > >> >> >> smart choice is > > > >> >> >> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... > > > > >> >> > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists > > > >> >> > claim > > > >> >> > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > > > > >> >> Which to me indicates you have no idea what sin, or repentance, > > > >> >> is. > > > > >> >> > ========== > > > > >> >> > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the > > > >> >> > god(s) worshipped > > > >> >> > ... or not, as the case may be.- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > > >> >Sin is wilful disobedience of God. ?Repentance is confessing and > > > >> >forsaking sin. > > > > >> As far as we can tell, God is a human invention. God never told us > > > >> to do > > > >> anything. Sin, therefore, is also a human invention.- Hide quoted > > > >> text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > >So once an atheist enters into sin, there is no turning back from > > > >it. ? I guess that was why Josef Stalin killed 12 million people. > > > > God is still a human invention. Clearly the fear of God does not stop > > > you from lying in almost every post. > > > > I will not respond to you for a while, you have become far too nasty > > > in > > > your discussions here.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I think that is wonderful. > > Robert B. Winn > > Yes, Free Lunch may be feeling just as tired as I do. > You don't have a sane mind and cannot argue logically and reasonably.- > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I am not arguing, hyhaps. --------------------------------- Because you can't. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:34 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:5df4c34e-d7d8-4af8-a772-27cb446b1120(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... On Jul 6, 6:07?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On 7 Jul 2008 00:45:54 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgf...(a)trashmail.net> wrote in > alt.atheism: > > >Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote in > >news:09p274di91fe9iga0fioemm19lsnegpums(a)4ax.com: > > >>>He's dumber than Dook! How can that be? > > >> There is LDS equivalent to the Jesuits. > > >What's the conversion factor? > > A 'not' escaped from that sentence. > > Jesuits may not be able to make all Catholics think clearly (and that > isn't exactly their goal), but they make intellectual pursuits > honorable. LDS have BYU, not a horrible college, but still nothing to be > confused with Georgetown or even Notre Dame. Well, I have a high school education. ------------------------------------------ It doesn't show in your posts. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:37 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:be50429a-eefa-4f65-be84-0e1860f8cb96(a)y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... On Jul 6, 5:48?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:06:59 +1200, BuddyThunder > <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >rbwinn wrote: > >> On Jul 6, 11:02?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>> My definition of sin was willful disobedience of God. ?Bearing false > >>>> witness about me would fall under the category of willful > >>>> disobedience > >>>> of God. > >>> In that case you are totally guilty of that exact sin. > > >>> We have already established by your own definitions that you are a > >>> sinful person (onkl Jesus is free of sin you said) , and your lack of > >>> charity excommnunicates you as a Christian. (you wont talk to God on > >>> anyones behalf..) > > >>> I think you are in deep trouble, dude. > > >> No, I am fine. ?I say a little prayer every once in a while about > >> atheists. > > >That one ever get answered? ;-) > > He didn't say what he was praying for. If you pray to God that He affect > nothing at all, He relibly answers.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It ---------------------------------- Ho! <thwack> Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:38 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:64619cc6-9677-4e9a-b11a-15a111e9096b(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jul 6, 5:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 6, 11:02?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > > >>> My definition of sin was willful disobedience of God. ?Bearing false > >>> witness about me would fall under the category of willful disobedience > >>> of God. > >> In that case you are totally guilty of that exact sin. > > >> We have already established by your own definitions that you are a > >> sinful person (onkl Jesus is free of sin you said) , and your lack of > >> charity excommnunicates you as a Christian. (you wont talk to God on > >> anyones behalf..) > > >> I think you are in deep trouble, dude. > > > No, I am fine. I say a little prayer every once in a while about > > atheists. > > That one ever get answered? ;-)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, ========================= Ho! <whack> Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 00:43
"Linda Fox" <linda.ff(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:ad3574do004i50e72i44nc6ip0418d1qhf(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:16:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> > wrote: > >>On Jul 6, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > >>> Why was he killed? > >>Bercause certain people in power wanted him dead. > > Oh, right. Those "people in power" means God, right, since his death > was the fulfilment of the prophecies, since I'm sure you'll tell us > that it was by his death that salvation was brought about? > > You may use both sides of the paper for your answer. > He'll need both sides. It's difficult to write small with crayons. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |