Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Mark K. Bilbo on 8 Jul 2008 13:45 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 6, 8:14�pm, Enkidu <fox_rgf...(a)trashmail.net> wrote: >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in news:6ccd4537-241a-4536-af04- >> b31a6faec...(a)x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: >> >>> Well, why don't you go ahead and believe what you want to believe, and >>> I will believe what I believe. �Does that seem unfair to you? >>> Robert B. Winn >> If you were honest, you'd leave alt.atheism. But you won't. >> >> -- >> Enkidu AA#2165 � >> EAC Chaplain and ordained minister, >> ULC, Modesto, CA >> >> It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been >> searching for evidence which could support this. >> � � � � � -- Bertrand Russell > > Just take sci.physics.relativity out of the header, and you will never > see me again. Take responsibility for your own posts for once why don't you?
From: Enkidu on 8 Jul 2008 14:06 "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:pklck5-ofd.ln1(a)75-104- 203-5.cust.wildblue.net: > But no matter how big a fraction of c you're moving away from me, any > light you emit in my direction is traveling at c. Even we're both moving > away from each other at a healthy fraction of c, the light we emit is > going to be moving at c when we (or anybody else) measures it. Think about it in a different way, say throwing mables off a train at pedestrians. If the train has a velicity of 10 m/s, and you can throw the ..01 kg marbles at 5 m/s, the marbles would hit pedestrians ahead of the train with a kinetic energy of 1.125 kgm^2/s^2. Marbles thrown at pedestrians behind the train would have a kinetic energy of 0.125 kgm^2/s^2. Light works pretty much the same way, except the difference in energy between photons emmitted forwards and backwards is not due to differing velocities of the photons when they hit the pedestrians, but their differing wavelengths when they hit. Welcome to the Dopler effect. -- Enkidu AA#2165 EAC Chaplain and ordained minister, ULC, Modesto, CA "All Bibles are man-made." Thomas Edison (1847-1931)
From: The Natural Philosopher on 8 Jul 2008 14:12 Linda Fox wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:34:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> > wrote: > >> Linda Fox wrote: > >> All my own. >> Remember when you had to have use of english A level to get to Uni? >> > You wrote that in Use of English? (which wasn't an A-level per se, but > a sort of add-on) boggle. I just had to write about why I wanted to go > to university rather than music college, which wasn't even true. > No dear I didn't. I mean we were encouraged at an early age to be able to write... I got my first prize for a nonsense rhyme at about age 7... > cheers > Linda ff
From: Stan-O on 8 Jul 2008 16:18 On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:40:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: >Stan-O wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> I have a sneaking suspicion that they never talk to you. >>>> Rather like your relationship with God. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve O >>> At one time when I was making mistakes, about half of the posts in >>> sci.physics.relativity were directed to me. Since I arrived at >>> equations that hold together, scientists do not post to me. >>> Robert B. Winn >> >> It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles. >> > >A few? Doesn't anyone understand sarcasm? Sheesh!
From: James Burns on 8 Jul 2008 16:20
rbwinn wrote: > Well, all you are doing is saying that God is guilty of > murder every time a natural death occurs. I do not > think you will get far with that idea. I have trouble thinking about "natural deaths" in connection with God. For humans, calling a death "natural" means no one did anything to bring it about. But doesn't Gospel assure us : Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of : them will fall to the ground apart from the will of : your Father. [Matthew 10:29] Insurance companies would probably call a natural death an "act of God". What might a death that was NOT God's will be like? Maybe you could clarify what you mean by "natural death" in the context of God's activity in the world, whatever that activity may be. First, what would you count as a life saved by God? Spin some scenarios. It doesn't matter (for once) about evidence that any of these scenarios has ever occurred. I'm just asking for your opinion. What would you count as definitely a God-caused death? Almost as important: what would you count as a death that was definitely NOT God-caused? Some possibilities: Drowning in Noah's flood? Drowning in any other flood? A lightning strike? A lightning strike from an empty sky? Cancer that did not receive a prayed-for miraculous remission? Execution by church members doing God's will? Assuming that you choose to clarify what you are trying to say, thanks in advance. Jim Burns |