Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Smiler on 22 Jun 2008 22:01 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:21d2c033-2719-40a6-bd9e-e4c3afc456bd(a)h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com... On Jun 21, 4:10 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 21, 7:59 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1f62d629-c363-4da7-9dfb-e564fb275e38(a)e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Jun 21, 4:03 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 20, 3:25 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 11:45 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 12:13?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>news:87b0e53d-5a57-49b1-b3d0-a331560793fb(a)c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 10:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>news:d6db0a86-413e-4057-a2cf-40363e9b8a34(a)a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well some people might not be convinced by your video > >>>>>>>>>>>>> footage. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are many people who believe that the Apollo moon landings > >>>>>>>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>>>>> faked. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>> It's not my fault if other people have mental health problems > >>>>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>> gullible enough to swallow any wild- assed claim they come > >>>>>>>>>>>> across. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, if my video footage is insufficient evidence, what > >>>>>>>>>>>> makes > >>>>>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2,000 > >>>>>>>>>>>> year old book o' blood and that silly Mormon bible more > >>>>>>>>>>>> convincing? > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you atheists did not do very well with regard to the > >>>>>>>>>>> Assyrian > >>>>>>>>>>> invasion of Judea. > >>>>>>>>>> I can assure you we had absolutely nothing to do with it. > >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible seems to have its facts a lot straighter > >>>>>>>>>>> than you atheists do. > >>>>>>>>>> There are very few facts in the bible at all. > >>>>>>>>>> It is a magic story based around real (and sometimes non- > >>>>>>>>>> existent ) > >>>>>>>>>> locations. > >>>>>>>>>>> Was there some other specific thing that you > >>>>>>>>>>> atheists wanted to discuss? > >>>>>>>>>> How about your inability to differentiate fantasy from reality? > >>>>>>>>> I think I do fairly well. Hezekiah's tunnel is real. The earthen > >>>>>>>>> ramp over the city wall at Lachish is real. Harry Potter is not > >>>>>>>>> real. > >>>>>>>> Ah, but London is! Is the Bible? It may be, we haven't refuted > >>>>>>>> anything > >>>>>>>> yet. But your logic is not supportive of your claims.- Hide > >>>>>>>> quoted > >>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> I actually know a man from London, England. I make doors and > >>>>>>> window > >>>>>>> frames for him sometimes. He soes not believe in Harry Potter > >>>>>>> either. > >>>>>> Then how can you logically deny that London even exists?!- Hide > >>>>>> quoted > >>>>>> text - > >>>>> Actually Harry Potter is what does not exist. I know this will come > >>>>> as a shock to the atheist community. > >>>> It's your logic, you defend it!- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> It does not need defended. Harry Potter either exists or he does > >>> not. You are free to believe he exists if that is what you want to > >>> do. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> If you think that Harry Potter is fiction then you must also think that > >> London doesn't exist right? > >> You'd better tell that to all of the people who live there, it may come > >> as a > >> surprise to them. > > > It was your idea. Why don't you tell them? > > Ah, but it's YOUR idea. We're just reapplying your logic in defence of > the Bible to defending Harry Potter. The logical consequences are your > problem, we don't believe such silliness. Neither the Bible, nor Harry > Potter.- Hide quoted text - > Well, someday you will come to realize that Harry Potter does not need defending. He is only a fictional character in a book. ----------------------------------------- Well, someday you will come to realize that Jesus does not need defending. He is only a fictional character in a book. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: TT on 22 Jun 2008 22:13 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 22, 10:06 am, TT <t...(a)noburn.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:13:28 -0400, rbwinn wrote >> (in article >> <b632d03c-1575-41fa-8b21-2d50f3586...(a)f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>): >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 21, 6:43 pm, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jun 20, 4:37 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:40 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 5:34 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 5:55 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of >>>>>>>>>>>>> time, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>> nahh...we'll discus what we want...you choose your fiction..and >>>>>>>>>>>> that's all you have been expressing faith in..nothing else...and >>>>>>>>>>>> we'll >>>>>>>>>>>> point out our fiction...and we won't base a worldview on our >>>>>>>>>>>> inability >>>>>>>>>>>> to deal with reality like you do....Don't like it? Pray for >>>>>>>>>>>> us...otherwise..tough... >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> �Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the >>>>>>>>>>>> question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it >>>>>>>>>>>> right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is >>>>>>>>>>>> neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells >>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>> it is right.� >>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Well, people would do better if they learned to do their own praying. >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>> Thinking is preferred by everyone else here..it actually does >>>>>>>>>> something... >>>>>>>>> Well, so you think that you can destroy Christianity. That was what >>>>>>>>> this conversation was about when it began. That was why I was >>>>>>>>> pointing out that the Bible was the best selling book in the world. >>>>>>>>> Not so, said atheists. Harry Potter is the best selling book in the >>>>>>>>> world. >>>>>>>> That's a bit melodramatic, isn't it? I'm just interested in your beliefs >>>>>>>> and how they're rationalised. Destroying Christianity is a ridiculous >>>>>>>> aspiration, you'd constantly be disappointed!- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> So why do atheists have schools teaching that Christianity is false? >>>>>>> If they do not have the aspiration, why are they trying to do it? >>>>>> Do we? What schools? What fresh hell is this?!- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> Public schools. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> It carries the same weight in a science classroom as say, the stork >>>> theory, and the multitude of other religious fantasies about how present >>>> day humans came to be. It's main work is studied in literature classes, >>>> and in sociology classes, it's effect on believers and the societies >>>> they live in is reviewed. History classes abound with christian >>>> references(well..in the West,anyway...in the east, they could care >>>> less). You have no reason to complain...it gets far more respect than >>>> it deserves... >>> When I was in school, we had a Baptist preacher who taught grades 5 >>> through 8. He used to pray right in school. >>> Robert B. Winn >> I'm truly sorry for you then...child abuse in the guise of education is a >> horrible thing. It explains a lot though...therapy is the first healing >> measure you can do for yourself...- Hide quoted text - >> > Well, I know all about therapy. When an atheist says therapy, they > mean thorazine or some other tranquilizer drug. > Robert B. Winn > > With that as your background...I'm sure you've heard a lot of diagnoses involving therapy....but Thorazine is mostly given these days for retractable hiccups...not sedation -- �Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.� Martin Luther king Jr.
From: Alex W. on 23 Jun 2008 06:53 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:a5af17a3-7d58-46b4-81fa-50b6b54f9dba(a)p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com... No, the Taliban is more like atheists. ========== Atheists don't blow themselves up. Well, not intentionally, anyhow ....
From: Alex W. on 23 Jun 2008 06:54 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:f443d5a2-ca30-432a-abef-140f33774bfa(a)j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... Islam is going to fail. ======== Someone clearly forgot to tell them ....
From: Alex W. on 23 Jun 2008 06:58
"Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:OlD7k.122914$9x.2844(a)newsfe05.ams2... > > "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6c6rqqF3esk78U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message >> news:485e3107$1(a)clear.net.nz... >> >> >>> I bet it's always Christmas in Londonland, and all the women look like >>> Angelina Jolie. >> >> I wish .... >> > > Not the bit about always Christmas (All those annoying stupid carols and > all that conspicuous consumption all year round!), but I'll go along with > the second part ;-) Especially in summer. English girls are NOT made for sunshine. We are a Drizzle People. Come the summer, London parks are full of the sight of dumpy girls who insist on displaying as much cellulite as possible, blithely disregarding their native pastiness. Green Park always looks as if Noah's Flood has just receded, leaving behind all those bodies lying about with skin the colour of three-day floaters. Yeucch .... |