Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 25 Jun 2008 21:15 On Jun 25, 5:14�pm, "foolsrushin." <dolomi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 18 Jun, 11:01, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > [cut] > > > >>>>>>> "I want to know how God created this universe. All the rest are just > > >>>>>>> details." Albert Einstein > > >>>>>>> Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008 > > [cut] > > Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God > that he does not exist. > -- > 'foolsrushin.' If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe in God. Robert B. Winn
From: hhyapster on 25 Jun 2008 21:54 On Jun 22, 7:34 pm, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "Darrell Stec" <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote in message > > news:485db4ed$0$3390$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com... > > > Idiot. An atheist does not believe in gods, or demons or supernatural > > forces. Witches and demons cannot be atheists. > > Point of order: > why should an atheist not be able to believe in ghosts, demons and things > that go bump in the night? A non-belief in the existence of a god does not > automatically include a denial of the supernatural per se, does it? Yes, but if there is demon and ghost, we won't know if they are good or bad, since they cannot interfere with us. (And who says that they must only appear at night?) Supernatural is beyond logic and beyond reality or not conforming to the physical laws as we know them. Its existence is not defined and we have actually not seen one before. Of course, what has happen else where in this universe may be termed as supernatural, but they may be part of a larger physical laws that is still alien to earth.
From: Smiler on 25 Jun 2008 22:27 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:884e5992-7364-40c6-9d03-4c22aafd215b(a)z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jun 25, 5:14?pm, "foolsrushin." <dolomi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 18 Jun, 11:01, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > [cut] > > > >>>>>>> "I want to know how God created this universe. All the rest are > > >>>>>>> just > > >>>>>>> details." Albert Einstein > > >>>>>>> Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008 > > [cut] > > Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God > that he does not exist. > -- > 'foolsrushin.' If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe in God. ------------------------------- Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: rbwinn on 25 Jun 2008 23:48 On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:884e5992-7364-40c6-9d03-4c22aafd215b(a)z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 25, 5:14?pm, "foolsrushin." <dolomi...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > On 18 Jun, 11:01, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > [cut] > > > > >>>>>>> "I want to know how God created this universe. All the rest are > > > >>>>>>> just > > > >>>>>>> details." Albert Einstein > > > >>>>>>> Mitch Raemsch; Twice Nobel Laureate 2008 > > > [cut] > > > Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God > > that he does not exist. > > -- > > 'foolsrushin.' > > If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe > in God. > ------------------------------- > Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god? > Proven by whom? Robert B. Winn
From: Roger Pearse on 26 Jun 2008 03:57
On 25 Jun, 22:11, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jun 25, 1:05 pm,Roger Pearse<roger.pea...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Luke did not use Josephus. > > > > > Have you read the Gospel According to Luke and Acts in Greek? Have you read > > > >Josephus' entire works in Greek? If not then you don't have even the most > > > > basic foundation to be able to discuss the matter. > > > Since little Darrell hasn't done this himself, this is merely a > > particularly dishonest attempt to silence criticism of a particularly > > daft statement. > > All the best, > > >Roger Pearse > > Thank you, Roger. Darrell has some very strange ideas. > Robert b. Winn You're welcome. I'm afraid that the problem is not with wrong information. Most atheists are more or less normal people, but a few are willing to lie for their belief, and Darrell is one of them. (I've just, regrettably, met another). All the best, Roger Pearse |