Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 9 Aug 2008 16:48 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:f5bc7191-fe69-426c-b690-4b204b26b084(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On 9 Aug, 03:41, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:f6bf1cdb-0ee6-4ded-95f5-83951744a7ef(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 8 Aug, 18:46, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On 7 Aug, 21:06, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>> On 7 Aug, 20:20, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>>>> On 7 Aug, 19:01, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >> >>>>>> On Aug 7, 9:45 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>> never appoint Steve to be our spokesman. >> >> >>>>>>>>> You have confused with the message that Steve was putting >> >> >>>>>>>>> across. >> >> >>>>>>>>> You have never see the point that any story can make >> >> >>>>>>>>> reference >> >> >>>>>>>>> to an >> >> >>>>>>>>> existing object, place, event, people, government, race, >> >> >>>>>>>>> animal >> >> >>>>>>>>> and >> >> >>>>>>>>> etc, but the tales are made up (imagined). This is exactly >> >> >>>>>>>>> what >> >> >>>>>>>>> Harry >> >> >>>>>>>>> Potter did. >> >> >>>>>>>>> So, if the Harry Potter referred to London, does it make the >> >> >>>>>>>>> character >> >> >>>>>>>>> in the tales real? >> >> >>>>>>>>> The bible that you value so much is also the same as Harry >> >> >>>>>>>>> Potter, >> >> >>>>>>>>> tales imagined in someone's head.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>>>>> The construction of the tunnel is described in the Bible. The >> >> >>>>>>> Assyrians were invading Judea and had taken several cities. >> >> >>>>>>> The >> >> >>>>>>> Jews >> >> >>>>>>> at Jerusalem decided to hide the water from Gihon spring >> >> >>>>>>> because >> >> >>>>>>> they >> >> >>>>>>> did not want the Assyrians using that water when they besieged >> >> >>>>>>> Jerusalem, so they CONSTRUCTED a conduit for water to take the >> >> >>>>>>> water >> >> >>>>>>> to the pool of Siloam inside Jerusalem. They used picks and >> >> >>>>>>> shovels, >> >> >>>>>>> as is explained in the inscription they left on the wall of >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>>> tunnel, written in ancient Hebrew. The fact that they wrote in >> >> >>>>>>> ancient Hebrew shows that the tunnel was made before the >> >> >>>>>>> Babylonian >> >> >>>>>>> captivity which took place in 600 B.C. The Assyrian invasion >> >> >>>>>>> took >> >> >>>>>>> place in 701 B.C. >> >> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >> >> >>>>>> So, the bible tales were written after the existence of tunnel, >> >> >>>>>> right? >> >> >>>>>> Your Harry Potter stories also was written after the existence >> >> >>>>>> of >> >> >>>>>> London . >> >> >>>>> No, the book of Isaiah was being written while the tunnel was >> >> >>>>> being >> >> >>>>> dug. >> >> >>>> I'm thinking about writing a story about leprechauns. Down my way >> >> >>>> is >> >> >>>> a >> >> >>>> transit center that is going to be built. I'm going to write a >> >> >>>> story >> >> >>>> about leprechauns helping the construction workers build the >> >> >>>> transit >> >> >>>> center. >> >> >>>> Once the transit center is built, do leprechauns exist? >> >> >>> I knew a guy who was an alcoholic. He and his wife used to get >> >> >>> drunk >> >> >>> and see all kinds of little men. >> >> >> Did the little men exist? >> >> >> > According to this guy and his wife, they could both see the little >> >> > men. >> >> >> Answer the question. Do the little men exist? >> >> > Well, they were not little men. �They were evil spirits. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> You mean whiskey is more evil than vodka? >> > Well, I would not think so. My neighbors have some adopted children > who are from Russia. Their parents locked them in a closet and went > on a drunk. The baby died, but the older children survived. > Robert B. Winn Robert, do you actually realize how disjointed your thinking is at the moment? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Ben Dolan on 9 Aug 2008 17:06 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > Well, all I am saying is that you atheists have not seen anything > yet. The book of Revelation says that 1/3 of the people on earth are > going to die at one time. We're all going to die, child. I'm not sure how your ancient book of mythology came up with this ridiculous claim, but the chances are that if something so horrible were to occur that would kill 1/3 of the people on earth at one time, it would kill the other 2/3 as well, don't ya think? > You would think that might get the attention of atheists, but the prophecy > is that they will curse God and die instead of repenting of their sins. Why would you think that, child? Just because it's written in some silly old story? If your Bible doesn't get the "attention of atheists" other than as an ancient curiosity, why do you think this one tall tale should be any different?
From: DanielSan on 9 Aug 2008 18:07 rbwinn wrote: > On 9 Aug, 08:10, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> Steve O wrote: >> >> Actually, he thinks that we ARE actively denying the existence of the >> Tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, >> orcs...and any other fictional character you can possibly think of. >> >> -- > Well, if atheists believe in the tooth Fairy, leprechauns, the Easter > Bunny, Santa Claus, fairies, etc., here in the United States you are > free to have those beliefs. Where did anyone say that you weren't allowed to have those beliefs? We don't live in a theocracy, Winn. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
From: rbwinn on 9 Aug 2008 18:47 On 9 Aug, 13:47, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> I don't actively deny the existence of God. I'm too busy to do that. > > >> >> -- > >> > So why do you call yourself an atheist? > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> Robert, we don't actively deny God for the same reason we don't actively > >> deny the existence of the Tooth Fairy. > >> I don't expect you to understand this. > > >> -- > > Well, if you want to believe in the tooth Fairy, that would be your > > choice to make. > > Robert B. Winn > > When did I claim that I want to believe in the Tooth Fairy? > Looks like I was right when I said you wouldn't understand, doesn't it? > Well, you said you would never actively deny the existence of the tooth fairy. Sort of like Harry Potter, right Steve? I denied the existence of the tooth fairy as soon as I discovered it was a conspiracy to make me look like a fool. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 9 Aug 2008 18:48
On 9 Aug, 13:48, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:f5bc7191-fe69-426c-b690-4b204b26b084(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On 9 Aug, 03:41, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:f6bf1cdb-0ee6-4ded-95f5-83951744a7ef(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > On 8 Aug, 18:46, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> > On 7 Aug, 21:06, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >>> On 7 Aug, 20:20, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >>>>> On 7 Aug, 19:01, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > >> >> >>>>>> On Aug 7, 9:45 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> never appoint Steve to be our spokesman. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> You have confused with the message that Steve was putting > >> >> >>>>>>>>> across. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> You have never see the point that any story can make > >> >> >>>>>>>>> reference > >> >> >>>>>>>>> to an > >> >> >>>>>>>>> existing object, place, event, people, government, race, > >> >> >>>>>>>>> animal > >> >> >>>>>>>>> and > >> >> >>>>>>>>> etc, but the tales are made up (imagined). This is exactly > >> >> >>>>>>>>> what > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Harry > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Potter did. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> So, if the Harry Potter referred to London, does it make the > >> >> >>>>>>>>> character > >> >> >>>>>>>>> in the tales real? > >> >> >>>>>>>>> The bible that you value so much is also the same as Harry > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Potter, > >> >> >>>>>>>>> tales imagined in someone's head.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >>>>>>> The construction of the tunnel is described in the Bible. The > >> >> >>>>>>> Assyrians were invading Judea and had taken several cities. > >> >> >>>>>>> The > >> >> >>>>>>> Jews > >> >> >>>>>>> at Jerusalem decided to hide the water from Gihon spring > >> >> >>>>>>> because > >> >> >>>>>>> they > >> >> >>>>>>> did not want the Assyrians using that water when they besieged > >> >> >>>>>>> Jerusalem, so they CONSTRUCTED a conduit for water to take the > >> >> >>>>>>> water > >> >> >>>>>>> to the pool of Siloam inside Jerusalem. They used picks and > >> >> >>>>>>> shovels, > >> >> >>>>>>> as is explained in the inscription they left on the wall of > >> >> >>>>>>> the > >> >> >>>>>>> tunnel, written in ancient Hebrew. The fact that they wrote in > >> >> >>>>>>> ancient Hebrew shows that the tunnel was made before the > >> >> >>>>>>> Babylonian > >> >> >>>>>>> captivity which took place in 600 B.C. The Assyrian invasion > >> >> >>>>>>> took > >> >> >>>>>>> place in 701 B.C. > >> >> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >> >>>>>> So, the bible tales were written after the existence of tunnel, > >> >> >>>>>> right? > >> >> >>>>>> Your Harry Potter stories also was written after the existence > >> >> >>>>>> of > >> >> >>>>>> London . > >> >> >>>>> No, the book of Isaiah was being written while the tunnel was > >> >> >>>>> being > >> >> >>>>> dug. > >> >> >>>> I'm thinking about writing a story about leprechauns. Down my way > >> >> >>>> is > >> >> >>>> a > >> >> >>>> transit center that is going to be built. I'm going to write a > >> >> >>>> story > >> >> >>>> about leprechauns helping the construction workers build the > >> >> >>>> transit > >> >> >>>> center. > >> >> >>>> Once the transit center is built, do leprechauns exist? > >> >> >>> I knew a guy who was an alcoholic. He and his wife used to get > >> >> >>> drunk > >> >> >>> and see all kinds of little men. > >> >> >> Did the little men exist? > > >> >> > According to this guy and his wife, they could both see the little > >> >> > men. > > >> >> Answer the question. Do the little men exist? > > >> > Well, they were not little men. They were evil spirits. > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> You mean whiskey is more evil than vodka? > > > Well, I would not think so. �My neighbors have some adopted children > > who are from Russia. �Their parents locked them in a closet and went > > on a drunk. �The baby died, but the older children survived. > > Robert B. Winn > > Robert, do you actually realize how disjointed your thinking is at the > moment? > So you do not want to talk about the effects of vodka? Robert B. Winn |