From: Ian Gregory on
On 2010-04-05, Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

> There is no "other side", a fact which many people find too disturbing
> to contemplate but one which I long ago accepted as the self-evident
> truth.

For all you pedants out there, feel free to substitute "prospect" for
"fact". But then again, when I die I might go to Tumbolia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbolia

Ian

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From: gtr on
On 2010-04-05 11:16:33 -0700, Sherm Pendley said:

> Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2010-04-05, Sherm Pendley <spamtrap(a)shermpendley.com> wrote:
>>> Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> There is no "other side", a fact which
>>>
>>> ... is a belief, not a fact. Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
>>
>> Whatever.
>
> No, not "whatever." Words have meaning, and "belief" and "fact" do not
> mean the same thing.

They began to converge around 1980 during the Reagen administration.
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From: gtr on
On 2010-04-05 15:11:15 -0700, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <1jghksf.3sb0baxjhoffN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
> mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>
>> But they're the Los Angeles Angels. Does that constitute a miracle? (Not
>> to mention a redundancy.)
>
> Actually, they're the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

If so, why don't we have the Brooklyn Dogers of Los Angeles and the
Baltimore Colts of Indianapolis?
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From: gtr on
On 2010-04-05 13:45:40 -0700, Michelle Steiner said:

> In article <m24ojpbqqh.fsf(a)shermpendley.com>,
> Sherm Pendley <spamtrap(a)shermpendley.com> wrote:
>
>>> For all practical purposes, the difference here between fact and
>>> belief is moot.
>>
>> That difference is *precisely* what I'm talking about. What Ian happens
>> to believe, and whether or not I agree with it, is immaterial. I'm
>> simply arguing against the use of the word "fact" to describe something
>> that has not been proven one way or another.
>
> Ok, then, you're being a pedant.

That's true unless, to him, "pedant" means some kind of cookie.

To me "pedant" is the windshield wiper on the right side. It's a fact!
LIVE with it!
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From: Mike Rosenberg on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> > But they're the Los Angeles Angels. Does that constitute a miracle? (Not
> > to mention a redundancy.)
>
> Actually, they're the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

Yep. Makes me wonder if they're going to open franchises in other
cities, with the help of Jerry Bruckheimer.

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