From: Howard on
Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:

> On 09/07/2010 14:35, in article 1jld9tn.1xrwq0512szqv6N%Howard.not(a)home.com,
> "Howard" <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote:
>
> > Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-07-09 13:54:04 +0100, Lynn W said:
> >>
> >>> My thoughts and I think Apple have really dropped off on this they should
> >>> have warned 3G owners of the problem and then we could have made the
> >>> decision of whether to install it or not!
> >>
> >> I can't recall Apple ever saying up front whether a particular OS
> >> upgrade is problematic, so the sort of thing you're proposing is simply
> >> never going to happen!
> >>
> >> Apple never forced anyone to upgrade either. I can't remember what the
> >> UI in iTunes was like in detail, but I think you've always been able to
> >> opt in or out.
> >
> > You are 100% right.
> >
> > But there was no indication this was any different than previous
> > updates. I am very IT savvy but there was also no indication that this
> > update would be more taxing on the processor or lead to significant
> > slowdowns.
> >
> > It looks like very few here have downgraded...
> >
> > H
> If I was able to restore my iPhone to it's last software I would in a flash
> as its rubbish now. However it appears I need to Jailbreak it to do it,
> don't want to do that . I am presuming that Jailbreaking is different to
> unlocking or I can apparently ask O2 to unlock my phone now
>
If it is to do as I am suggesting ... go from 4 back to 3.1.3 then we
don't have to jailbreak there is instructions on the wweb in a few
places.

Howard
From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-07-09 15:10:21 +0100, Sak Wathanasin said:

> On 9 July, 11:45, Howard....(a)home.com (Howard) wrote:
>
>> On 4.0.1 this infers that there is somehting that can be fixed.. it
>> seems to me that the processor in the 3G is just just not powerful
>> enough to take on 4 ...
>
> It's defnitely slower, but no where near "unusable" for me. My feeling
> is that it's not raw CPU power as such, but lack of RAM that is
> causing the problems with the 3G. Even if CPU is the problem, they can
> speed things up in the next release (cf SL's speedups over prev OS).

The one area in which I notice a problem with my iPod Touch 2G (sort of
equivalent to the 3G iPhone in hardware specs) is that the on-screen
keyboard stutters a bit when it first comes up. No taps are lost, so if
you're confident you're OK.

I agree, this is nowhere near "unusable".

--
Chris

From: Peter Ceresole on
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:

> I agree, this is nowhere near "unusable".

Maybe not, but from what I read it's 'not great'. Which, from Apple, is
pretty bad.

I have an iTouch, not sure what the model number is, but it really
doesn't seem that it's worth the risk.
--
Peter
From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-07-09 18:51:46 +0100, Peter Ceresole said:

> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree, this is nowhere near "unusable".
>
> Maybe not, but from what I read it's 'not great'. Which, from Apple, is
> pretty bad.

It has some useful features which work on our old hardware. But I think
Apple rushed this OS out a bit :-(

> I have an iTouch, not sure what the model number is, but it really
> doesn't seem that it's worth the risk.

Yours is older than mine (IIRC), and I think I got one of the early
second gen models. If yours is first gen, it is incompatible with iOS 4
altogether.
--
Chris

From: Lynn W on
On 09/07/2010 15:28, in article 1jldc50.1louvp21qp2x3cN%Howard.not(a)home.com,
"Howard" <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote:

> Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/07/2010 14:35, in article 1jld9tn.1xrwq0512szqv6N%Howard.not(a)home.com,
>> "Howard" <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-07-09 13:54:04 +0100, Lynn W said:
>>>>
>>>>> My thoughts and I think Apple have really dropped off on this they should
>>>>> have warned 3G owners of the problem and then we could have made the
>>>>> decision of whether to install it or not!
>>>>
>>>> I can't recall Apple ever saying up front whether a particular OS
>>>> upgrade is problematic, so the sort of thing you're proposing is simply
>>>> never going to happen!
>>>>
>>>> Apple never forced anyone to upgrade either. I can't remember what the
>>>> UI in iTunes was like in detail, but I think you've always been able to
>>>> opt in or out.
>>>
>>> You are 100% right.
>>>
>>> But there was no indication this was any different than previous
>>> updates. I am very IT savvy but there was also no indication that this
>>> update would be more taxing on the processor or lead to significant
>>> slowdowns.
>>>
>>> It looks like very few here have downgraded...
>>>
>>> H
>> If I was able to restore my iPhone to it's last software I would in a flash
>> as its rubbish now. However it appears I need to Jailbreak it to do it,
>> don't want to do that . I am presuming that Jailbreaking is different to
>> unlocking or I can apparently ask O2 to unlock my phone now
>>
> If it is to do as I am suggesting ... go from 4 back to 3.1.3 then we
> don't have to jailbreak there is instructions on the wweb in a few
> places.
>
> Howard

Ive obviously missed something sorry the bit I was reading mentioned
Jailbreaking and other software Id not heard of to do it.


Lynn
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