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From: John McWilliams on 23 Dec 2009 15:52 Howard Brazee wrote: > The obesity epidemic is to the Left what homosexuality is to the Right > - an issue that has a large nurture aspect, but evidence shows to be > primarily genetic, and one that they feel a Righteous need to "cure". There's an epidemic of homosexuality?? Both have a positive aspect in that they tend to limit population growth, though the obese tend to propagate before they expire. -- john mcwilliams
From: D.F. Manno on 23 Dec 2009 15:54 In article <0001HW.C756766F0045CC13B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > Given that whether or not one is > obese is something almost completely under control of the individual Care to back that up with scientific evidence? Because there's a lot of evidence for the opposite proposition. -- D.F. Manno | dfmanno(a)mail.com And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence. (Bertrand Russell)
From: Wes Groleau on 23 Dec 2009 16:08 D.F. Manno wrote: > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: >> Given that whether or not one is >> obese is something almost completely under control of the individual > > Care to back that up with scientific evidence? Because there's a lot of > evidence for the opposite proposition. Much of that evidence is misleading. There are genetic reasons that account for some obesity, but even in most of those cases it is possible (though perhaps _very_ uncomfortable) to control the weight by controlling diet. Another factor that clouds the issue are the falsehoods about nutrition that have been pushed on us for decades--even though the evidence against them was already known to researchers who for some reason weren't protesting. -- Wes Groleau Elevated pronunciation http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=994
From: Linda Hungerford on 23 Dec 2009 16:30 On Dec 23, 6:05 am, Su-Z-Q <re...(a)this.group> wrote: > In article <0001HW.C756766F0045CC13B0102...(a)News.Individual.NET>, > > TaliesinSoft <taliesins...(a)me.com> wrote: ><<>> > Then we decriminalized being overweight <<snipped>> ok, you will have to educate me as to when it has been a crime to be obese. Linda H.
From: Nick Naym on 23 Dec 2009 17:10
In article 0001HW.C756766F0045CC13B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET, TaliesinSoft at taliesinsoft(a)me.com wrote on 12/22/09 2:13 PM: > On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:58:02 -0600, Robert Haar wrote (in article > <C75680EA.481FEC%bobhaar(a)me.com>): > >> On 12/22/09 1:31 PM, "Nick Naym" <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > > [responding to the following comment made in the preceding posting in this > thread] > >>> Compared to the US, _everybody_ has better healthcare. >> >> No _everybody_ but at least all the people in the developed nations of the >> world. > > What comes to mind is that within the United States we have one of the > world's foremost problems with obesity. Given that whether or not one is > obese is something almost completely under control of the individual I would > think that the overall position of health care in the United States would > likely be better than it is if only more persons in this country took better > care of themselves. That's _health_ -- a different issue than health _care_. The latter is a service which many -- if not most -- (developed) countries consider an essential service, akin to police, fire, sanitation, etc. In the US, it's treated as an unregulated market, driven solely by shareholder profit, not social need. IMNSHO, if health care is allowed to be totally unregulated -- free, even, from the basic monopoly and antitrust restrictions and regulations imposed on virtually every other industry -- then why don't we farm out police, fire, sanitation, etc. to the private sector? -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8) |