From: Tim Okergit on
On 07/14/2010 05:45 AM, Tim Streater wrote:

> A wheeled-mouse is so limiting after having a Mighty Mouse, and one with
> no wheel would get junked in no time flat.

Well, the way I see things, the Mighty Mouse is a mouse with a
scrollball with the click buttons awkwardly placed on the side. The
funny thing is everybody using a scrollball on a laptop want a standard
mouse. I wonder if you'd be so fond of the thing if Apple wasn't written
on it.

The guy here doesn't seem to appreciate it clicks all over the place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCm2wwP70v8

> I'm not interested in the cleaning argument. It's easy enough to do.

Of course, the guy at youtube takes only 10 minutes to clean it. Of
course, it's not a sequence shot and he's certainly repeated the process
many times before he shot the video.

I'd rather clean my $9 mouse. Here's what it looks like after removing
one bolt:

http://a0.5aphoto.com/dl/photo/2009/200911/20091113/L_B_07.JPG

See how the scroll whell stay in the top cover? All is left is to blow
the dirt away.
From: Tim Okergit on
On 07/14/2010 03:01 AM, dorayme wrote:
> In article<i1jjf0$3bq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Tim Okergit<to(a)notme.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/14/2010 01:37 AM, dorayme wrote:
>>> In article<i1jfar$mb5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Tim Okergit<to(a)notme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sometimes I scrolled up and the scrolling would stop. I figured maybe it
>>>> was dirt.
>>>>
>>>> I never thought it would be this easy to clean. It took only one minute.
>>>> Only one bolt to remove, no detachable parts inside. All I had to do is
>>>> blow air and remove 2 little pads of lint in the scroll wheel with a
>>>> pair of tweezers and a little screwdriver.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure it's this one, but it looks like it:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003B4BBFK
>>>>
>>>> It works fine and came with my computer.
>>>
>>> I am so glad I learned to do without this wheelie thing and
>>> bought the corded Apple Pro optical, the beautiful white
>>> 'buttonless' mouse years ago! It is possibly the best mouse ever
>>> produced in the world ever.
>>
>> Opinions differ, it seems:
>>
>> The bad: There are two main issues with this product,
>
> Why are you going on talking about anything but the mouse I am
> recommending to you?

Why don't you provide a link?



From: Tim Okergit on
On 07/14/2010 04:40 AM, JF Mezei wrote:

> I cleaned my mighty mouse. Didn't help. Must make a trip to the Apple
> place of worship tomorrow to buy one of them Magic Mice.

That's the idea! Doesn't work? Lose a fee hours, go downtown, buy
another one hoping it will do better:

"Initial reception to the Magic Mouse was mixed, with positive reactions
to its scrolling functions[4] but negative reactions to its inability to
middle click (without any additional software), or trigger Exposé,
Dashboard or Spaces (features offered by its predecessor).[5] Many of
those features can be enabled on the Magic Mouse with the use of third
party tools.

"The Magic Mouse also has known issues with maintaining a stable
connection to Mac Pro workstations."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Magic_Mouse

Wikipedia is just trolling, of course. Apple has great designs. So,

Buy another one,
Just like the other one.
Buy another one,
Hang it over the dump

Just don't buy this cheapie at 9$:

http://a0.5aphoto.com/dl/photo/2009/200911/20091113/L_B_07.JPG

If it costs more, it's better!
From: Tim Okergit on
On 07/14/2010 04:52 AM, Ian Gregory wrote:
> On 2010-07-14, Tim Okergit<to(a)notme.com> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes I scrolled up and the scrolling would stop. I figured maybe
>> it was dirt.
>
> A reasonable assumption, but a tad off topic given that you are
> referring to a non-Apple mouse.

Well you can use it on a Mac just the same instead of sending more and
more money to Apple.

>> I never thought it would be this easy to clean.
>
> Why not? If dirt can get in and cause loss of functionality then it
> makes sense for the manufacturer to allow for easy cleaning.

Which mouse do you believe is easier to clean? This one at $70:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jet7488UoSE

Or this one at $9, show as is after removing one bolt:

http://a0.5aphoto.com/dl/photo/2009/200911/20091113/L_B_07.JPG

> Mighty Mouse on the other hand is both susceptible to gumming up and
> glued shut to make cleaning difficult. Combined with the side squeeze
> action (which seems to activate at random) this made the Mighty Mouse a
> pretty terrible bit of design from Apple. Fortunately they have redeemed
> themselves with the Magic Mouse.

Absolutely! The next one is always great:

"Initial reception to the Magic Mouse was mixed, with positive reactions
to its scrolling functions[4] but negative reactions to its inability to
middle click (without any additional software), or trigger Exposé,
Dashboard or Spaces (features offered by its predecessor).[5] Many of
those features can be enabled on the Magic Mouse with the use of third
party tools.

"The Magic Mouse also has known issues with maintaining a stable
connection to Mac Pro workstations."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Magic_Mouse
From: Tim Okergit on
On 07/14/2010 03:29 PM, Tim Okergit wrote:

(Snip)

More comments:

The first issue we raise with the Magic Mouse is its size and shape.
While there's no way anyone can dispute its simple hotness, we struggled
through a difficult learning curve due to its *uniformly narrow profile
that sits too low for comfort*. It might be because we're so used to the
Logitech MX 1100 cradling each of our fingers with a designated resting
point, while the Apple Magic Mouse just feels like a chunk of finely
carved polycarbonate.

Next, we also had a *problem with the multitouch functionality*.
Specifically, we felt awkward and unnatural sliding our middle and index
fingers across the flat surface of the shell to navigate through several
Web pages. Even worse, if you don't have a uniform grip on the sides of
the mouse with your thumb, ring, and pinky fingers, the shell can easily
get away from your hand--this is why a touch surface with no hard
buttons just doesn't make sense on a mouse. Although Apple's
instructions tell you otherwise, we did find it easier to use our middle
and ring finger to swipe from left to right.

Finally, the Apple mousing preferences don't allow you to reassign the
action that happens when you swipe. We'd love to be able to direct the
mouse to open a program or advance a track in iTunes with a simple
finger gesture, but as it stands, the custom preferences for the Magic
Mouse only include check boxes to turn off the secondary click, momentum
scrolling, and screen zoom, as well as options to alter tracking,
scrolling, and double-click speed.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10380751-1.html
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