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From: Bob Harris on 7 Mar 2010 18:10 In article <070320100907476316%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <nospam.News.Bob-9AE38D.11321807032010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Bob > Harris <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote: > > > No. The sole reason for the Apps store is to sell hardware, just > > as the sole reason for iTunes store is to sell iPods. > > nonsense. the itunes store makes quite a bit of money independent of > hardware sales. > > > Apple is a hardware company. They make their billions from > > selling hardware. They only make millions from selling software. > > Software sales are icing on the Cake, but it would not keep them > > in business. > > apple is both a hardware and software company. software sales are > approximately 30%, based on a quarterly earnings report from last year. All of their software (iLife, iWork, FileCut, etc...), yes, but it is not enough to support the company. And iTunes and the App store do not bring in those kinds of numbers. Those services are to support selling hardware. And as someone that has worked for several computer hardware companies, writing software, for many many years, it is my opinion that Apple is a hardware company that mostly writes software in order to sell hardware. And they do a very VERY good job with their software. But take away that hardware, and Apple will not survive (today). Maybe if they keep growing the revenue they get from Software they might be able to become Microsoft. But it will take a lot of years for that to happen, and a lot more software offerings. My 2 cents.
From: Jolly Roger on 7 Mar 2010 18:57 In article <070320101252556784%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-B7EFFF.13121807032010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > I love how these dumb asses make the flawed assumption that the OS and > > software running on the iPad must be exactly the same as what's running > > on iPods... > > for the most part, it is the same. FAIL. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: nospam on 7 Mar 2010 19:12 In article <jollyroger-27A50B.17570607032010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > I love how these dumb asses make the flawed assumption that the OS and > > > software running on the iPad must be exactly the same as what's running > > > on iPods... > > > > for the most part, it is the same. > > FAIL. ok wiseass, how is it not the same? there are minor differences mainly due to screen size, but that's about it, and that's why existing iphone apps can run on an ipad, unmodified.
From: nospam on 7 Mar 2010 19:12 In article <1jf18g4.1u94of51sas57mN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Click on the link "Q1 2010 Form 10-Q filed January 25, 2010" to download > the PDF. i used q2 2009 since i happened to have a copy handy, but nevertheless, > Scroll down to page 35 for the detailed breakdown, under the "Net Sales > By Product" heading: > > Desktops (a) 1,692 > Portables (b) 2,758 > Total Mac net sales 4,450 > iPod 3,391 > Other music related products and services (c) 1,164 > iPhone and related products and services (d) 5,578 > Peripherals and other hardware (e) 469 > Software, service and other sales (f) 631 > Total net sales 15,683 add up the non-hardware portions: > Other music related products and services (c) 1,164 > Software, service and other sales (f) 631 and take 1/3rd of the iphone portion (because the exact proportion between the iphone itself and carrier kickbacks is not known). > iPhone and related products and services (d) 5,578 and you get 3654 out of 15683, for 23%. that's not what i'd call negligible.
From: nospam on 7 Mar 2010 19:12
In article <nospam.News.Bob-D089BD.18101507032010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote: > And iTunes and the App store do not bring in those kinds of > numbers. yes it does <http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/02/24/apple-itunes-10- billion-songs-later/> $520 million per quarter and the itunes store is the #1 music vendor. > Those services are to support selling hardware. that's part of it, but it's very profitable on its own. > And as someone that has worked for several computer hardware > companies, writing software, for many many years, it is my opinion > that Apple is a hardware company that mostly writes software in > order to sell hardware. And they do a very VERY good job with > their software. But take away that hardware, and Apple will not > survive (today). they very definitely could survive, given the appropriate product lineup. they might not be as profitable as they currently are with a hardware/software combination, but they would not go bankrupt. |