From: Jeffrey Goldberg on
On 2010-03-07 6:22 PM, Lao Ming wrote:

> Thanks for your very positive response -- we have established that you
> lack any sense of courteous behavior.

In defense of my fellow posters here, I would like to say that your
first post looked like a common sort of troll that shows up here. We
get posts of the sort, "I can't imagine wanting such and such Apple
product if it doesn't give me X (where X is some sort of thing like
"compile my own kernel")

The standard response to those all too frequent trolls is "well, don't
buy one then." Indeed, my response to you was to buy an Android device.

Only later did we learn that you weren't actually insisting on shell
access to the phone itself, but in fact just wanted an ssh client (a far
more sensible thing). ssh clients are plentiful, as are other network
tools. An iPhone may well be the right tool for you. But please
understand why there was so much hostility to your original post.

Cheers,

-j


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From: Wes Groleau on
Lao Ming wrote:
> Has anyone ever seen a 3rd-Party app for iPhoneOS to reach the shell
> like Terminal? If it has Darwin, then shouldn't the shell be
> possible? Without it, I can't imagine ever wanting an iPod, iPhone or
> iPad.

1. By one iPad, and one Macbook Air.

2. Glue the iPad to the MBA [A]

3. Get the telnet or ssh app from the app store.

4. Voila! A Modbook that doesn't need a stylus!
Or an iPad that has a real keyboard!
Thinner than a modbook and costs about the same.

[A] The curved back is Apple's evil attempt to prevent this.

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From: Wes Groleau on
nospam wrote:
>> Also, don't some shells have environment variables
>> for the number of rows and columns?
>
> sure, but it would need to constantly change every time you zoomed in
> and out. plus, a lot of things don't work too well with 20-30 columns
> (a realistic number on an iphone).

I would hope the app does what Terminal does--somehow reports to the
child process changes in dimensions. And if the child is SSH, that
apparently somehow passes on the change to the remote shell.

BUT, if I'm doing text, I won't be zooming in and out.
I'll set it to the highest number of rows/columns
that I can still read and leave it there.

If that is 30 columns, so be it. If it's twenty
columns, then I probably wouldn't use the app.

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From: Eric on
In article <80k9ldForqU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody(a)goldmark.org> wrote:

> I also have a port scanner, and a set of tools that include ping,
> traceroute and DNS look-ups. All of these without having any shell
> access to the phone itself.

Might be a little like advertising, but saying which apps you have found
handy in that area may be of interest?
From: Jeffrey Goldberg on
On 2010-03-21 6:24 AM, Eric wrote:

> Might be a little like advertising, but saying which apps you have found
> handy in that area may be of interest?

I didn't do a lot of comparison shopping, so there probably are better
tools out there. But here are the network tools I have on my phone.

Portscan - Security Scanner

Simple TCP port scanner. Sort of like a very light weight nmap.
I find it useful to see what ports are open on some host.

aSubnet

Just because I'm sometimes too lazy to do the mental arithmetic to
find a traditional netmask for a CIDR netblock

iStat - Sys Monitoring, Battery

This is really cool. You need to run the iStat server on your
machines, and this client lets you monitor things like CPU, memory,
disk space, temperatures, network usage on those machines.

Mocha VNC Lite

I've never used this, but it is on my phone.

NetTools

Nice set of simple tools, DNS lookup, ping, traceroute. I use it
fairly frequently.

Touch Term SSH

ssh client, terminal emulator. This does its best with the screen
space available. It has various short cuts for typing things like
^C. It also does password and public key authentication.

Cheers,

-j

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