Is the Unix shell possible under iPhoneOS? [Mac Systems]

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From: Lao Ming on 7 Mar 2010 19:22

On Mar 6, 4:48 pm, Jim Glidewell <jim_glidew...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lao Ming <laoming...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone ever seen a 3rd-Party app for iPhoneOS to reach the shell
> > like Terminal? If it has Darwin, then shouldn't the shell be
> > possible? Without it, I can't imagine ever wanting an iPod, iPhone or
> > iPad.
>
> Well, we have established that you lack imagination...
>
> But I don't see what that has to do with the merits of these devices.

Thanks for your very positive response -- we have established that you
lack any sense of courteous behavior.

From: Lao Ming on 7 Mar 2010 19:32

On Mar 6, 3:38 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <7d70d853-584c-4c9f-be4e-b0039d657...(a)t34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Lao Ming <laoming...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone ever seen a 3rd-Party app for iPhoneOS to reach the shell
> > like Terminal? If it has Darwin, then shouldn't the shell be
> > possible?
>
> only possible if you jailbreak.

Not owning either an iPod or iPhone, how would I jailbreak if I do buy
one?

> > Without it, I can't imagine ever wanting an iPod, iPhone or iPad.
>
> what exactly do you want to do that requires shell access?

I would love to be able to ssh to my server from anywhere I might be
(in a restaurant or hotel) and immediately use grep or shell scripts
to obtain information that I've collected over the last 20+ years. I
was used to 80x24 for many years. I could easily survive with 80x12
or whatever it might be. At least I hope it would be 80 chars across
if the iPod is turned sideways. :)

Thanks.

From: Jolly Roger on 7 Mar 2010 19:37

In article <070320101612536702%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-27A50B.17570607032010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I love how these dumb asses make the flawed assumption that the OS and
> > > > software running on the iPad must be exactly the same as what's running
> > > > on iPods...
> > >
> > > for the most part, it is the same.
> >
> > FAIL.
>
> ok wiseass, how is it not the same? there are minor differences mainly
> due to screen size, but that's about it, and that's why existing iphone
> apps can run on an ipad, unmodified.

FAIL again. You have no clue, as usual.

Here's a quote from someone who has actually used an iPad, and therefore
describes it better than I could, or care to:

"It uses the iPhone�s basic user interface and physical design. But,
taking advantage of a 9.7? screen and a fast Apple-designed processor,
the iPad adds some user interface elements and functionality that aren�t
available�or at least typical�on smart phones, but look more like
computer software. For instance, its photo program works more like
iPhoto on a Mac than the photo app on an iPhone, and it will be
available with a touch version of Apple�s iWork productivity suite,
which is Apple�s take on Microsoft Office. This is a much more powerful
program than the phone-based office suites for the iPhone or BlackBerry,
and Apple (AAPL) is only charging $30 for it.

Also, Apple has rewritten most of the core iPhone apps so they look more
like, and have more of the features of, Mac or PC programs. But they
aren�t mere clones of full computer apps. For instance, many forego
standard menus for clever overlays and sidebars that work more naturally
with the iPad�s multi-touch interface.�Other app developers can do this,
too. But, even if they don�t, the company said the iPad will run most of
the current 140,000 iPhone apps, either in a small window on the screen,
or in a full-screen mode. That�s a huge plus for a new device.

Mr. Jobs said after the onstage program ended that he sees the iPad�s
user interface as a fuller expression of the one on the iPhone, which
had been limited by screen real estate.
And, although the reported video and music streaming services were
nowhere to be seen at this preview, Mr. Jobs did offer a taste of how
the iPad could deliver content, beyond simply downloads from the iTunes
store. He showed off a new e-book reader app with built-in online book
store that, visually at least, blew away the Amazon (AMZN) Kindle, even
if it seemed to lack all of the Kindle�s features and may have a smaller
catalog. Representatives of the New York Times (NYT) showed an iPad
digital version of their newspaper that seemed vastly more usable than
the clumsy version now on the Kindle and its ilk.

So, the iPad is more than just a giant iPod Touch or iPhone, even though
it looks like one."

<http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/20100127/apple-ipad-impressions/>

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From: Jolly Roger on 7 Mar 2010 19:38

In article <070320101612556797%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1jf18g4.1u94of51sas57mN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, David
> Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > Click on the link "Q1 2010 Form 10-Q filed January 25, 2010" to download
> > the PDF.
>
> i used q2 2009 since i happened to have a copy handy, but nevertheless,
>
> > Scroll down to page 35 for the detailed breakdown, under the "Net Sales
> > By Product" heading:
> >
> > Desktops (a) 1,692
> > Portables (b) 2,758
> > Total Mac net sales 4,450
> > iPod 3,391
> > Other music related products and services (c) 1,164
> > iPhone and related products and services (d) 5,578
> > Peripherals and other hardware (e) 469
> > Software, service and other sales (f) 631
> > Total net sales 15,683
>
> add up the non-hardware portions:
> > Other music related products and services (c) 1,164
> > Software, service and other sales (f) 631
> and take 1/3rd of the iphone portion (because the exact proportion
> between the iphone itself and carrier kickbacks is not known).
> > iPhone and related products and services (d) 5,578
>
> and you get 3654 out of 15683, for 23%. that's not what i'd call
> negligible.

How convenient for you.

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From: Tom Stiller on 7 Mar 2010 19:48

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