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From: zoara on 16 Apr 2010 18:58 "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Used them in the past, but so much quoted text floats around they're > effectively useless sometimes. The only useful killfiles are those that kill anything from a poster and followups to that poster. Ideally it would just be any immediate followups, but the "everything that follows" of some newsreaders is fine, you still lose very little of value. NewsTap - the newsreader I use, on the iPhone - will only killfile matching posts, and not any followups. But I've been in touch with the author and he's said that followup-killing is due in a future version. I look forward to that, it will make NewsTap a lot more useful. It still has the flaw - like MacSOUP - that killfiles are far too easy to override. I wish it made you jump through a hoop or two - just enough effort to dissuade. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Rowland McDonnell on 16 Apr 2010 23:03 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > [1] And the killfile entry is still active. Examine MacSoup to learn > > > > how one may over-ride the killfile in MacSoup on a post-by-post basis. > > > > > > That would appear not to be its best feature. > > > > I fail to see any point in this post from you > > Ok, don't flame me for this but... > > You keep replying to people you claim are in your killfile. Jim, provide the detailled examples if you can. Analyse the posts and my replies - all of them applying to those in my killfile. Tell me: what fraction of killfiled posts do I unkill? Come on, what are the facts? If you want the facts, you must analyse what I read in total, what killfile entries I have, and the precise incidence of individual over-rides of those killfile entries *and also* data on what fraction of those kill-file over-rides result in me reading anything, and separately what fraction of those kill-file over-rides result in me posting anything. Oh, you don't know, do you? You've not the foggiest about any of it! You're `reasoning' from a data set that you know is pretty much empty - you're just making assumptions about me to give yourself an excuse to make another unwelcome personal criticism of me. If you were to perform the required analysis, you would find that *YOUR* analysis of my behaviour was so ill-informed as to be nonsensical. But you're not interested in the facts, are you? .... because it's much more fun to make pejorative postings about me based on ill-informed malice rather than any actual facts, innit? > Given that > the primary use of a killfile is to _avoid_ reading posts that meet a > certain criteria, this seems...odd. Given that you have no reliable information on my use of my killfile, and given also that you have no idea why I'm using a killfile, your analysis is nonsensical. You are at every stage reasoning from faulty data and making no attempt to correct your errors. You have in the past demonstrated a refusal to correct your cognitive errors - so the only thing for me to say at this point is `Shut up and butt out'. Your ideas on me are always wrong so keep them to yourself and if you really really *MUST* tell me about your ignorant thoughts about me, do so in email so as to avoid mucking up this newsgroup any worse than you've already mucked it up with your malicious personal comments. Your opinions on me are, as ever, absurd. So shut up. Shove a sock in it. Can it. Stick a lid on it. Keep schtum. Got the idea? > If someone is in your killfile but you override it every time, they're > effectively not in your killfile. Indeed - now I suggest you poke your nose *OUT* of my business and leave it out. I'm not going to explain anything to you, since you have shown that your are utterly impervious to my explanations and reasoning. Just shut up: you are ignorant and your personal opinions on me are - regardless of that - off-topic and unwelcome here. So shut up. Got it? Shut it. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 16 Apr 2010 23:03 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > It's not just management though. I strongly suspect that the average 20yr > > > old University student doesn't even know usenet exists. > > > > And why? Management decisions, that's why. The students are pushed > > towards `modern' Windows Webby stuff. > > Unlikely. The fact is that it's true in practice for real right now, regardless of your uniformed guess based on personal bias and a refusal to try to understand the point. > Even pre-Uni I'd bet that most <20yr olds are much more > familiar with web based stuff because it's what they use at home. As usual, you are totally missing the point. The thing about university is that it's where you go to learn, you see, and due to management decisions, students are not directed to learn about Usenet. That is what I'm referring to. [snip] > > > >> Rightly or wrongly usenet is going the way of gopher. > > > > > > > > Ripe for a resurgence, you mean? > > > > > > I mean usenet is being used by fewer and fewer people. > > > > [snip] > > > > And I mean that Gopher has returned from the dead, undergoing something > > of a resurgence, not being used by fewer and fewer people as you claim. > > Interesting, if true. Could you provide a link to that info please? STFW: why are you asking me for confirmation? STFW, and you'll find that Gopher's surprisingly alive[1]; you can investigate via the Web every bit as well as I can. Rowland. [1] Or was, last time I checked; you'd've thought Gopher would be extinct, but it's not. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jim on 17 Apr 2010 01:13 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > You keep replying to people you claim are in your killfile. > > Jim, provide the detailled examples if you can. Well, James Jolley springs to mind. You keep stating that he's in your killfile, and then you keep replying to him. I didn't say you replied to _everyone_ in your killfile now, did I? Jim -- "Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: The Older Gentleman on 17 Apr 2010 04:02
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: <snip loads of off-topic abuse and misunderstanding to leave...> > Why you can't just stick to technical matters, I do not know. Oh, the irony. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |