From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Even pre-Uni I'd bet that most <20yr olds are much more
> > > familiar with web based stuff because it's what they use at home.
> >
> > The thing about university is that it's where you go to learn, you see,
> > and due to management decisions, students are not directed to learn
> > about Usenet.
>
> See, here's the thing - I do actually use a few web forums (chilli
> growers for the most part) and if they're setup correctly they're almost
> as good as usenet for their purpose.

No Web forum I've met has had a UI even close to the convenience of a
good off-line newsreader.

Not even with an order of magnitude close.

> You and I might _prefer_ usenet but that doesn't make it a
> one-size-fits-all solution in all situations.

[snip]

Irrelevant point.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> > See, here's the thing - I do actually use a few web forums (chilli
> > growers for the most part) and if they're setup correctly they're almost
> > as good as usenet for their purpose.
>
> No Web forum I've met has had a UI even close to the convenience of a
> good off-line newsreader.
>
> Not even with an order of magnitude close.

Note my use of the word 'almost'.

> > You and I might _prefer_ usenet but that doesn't make it a
> > one-size-fits-all solution in all situations.
>
> [snip]
>
> Irrelevant point.

That's where we disagree, but I'm happy to leave it here.

Jim
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From: James Jolley on
On 2010-04-18 07:08:05 +0100, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) said:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> See, here's the thing - I do actually use a few web forums (chilli
>>> growers for the most part) and if they're setup correctly they're almost
>>> as good as usenet for their purpose.
>>
>> No Web forum I've met has had a UI even close to the convenience of a
>> good off-line newsreader.
>>
>> Not even with an order of magnitude close.

Not to mention that he said "offline" "news" "reader". The nice thing
about the web forums is that many of them now are so similar. There
must be a standard UI for many of them, because I know what sort of
things to expect when I visit one.
>
> Note my use of the word 'almost'.
>
>>> You and I might _prefer_ usenet but that doesn't make it a
>>> one-size-fits-all solution in all situations.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Irrelevant point.
>
> That's where we disagree, but I'm happy to leave it here.
> Everything's going to be irrelevant to him, you're abusing him
> apparently, a long with the rest of the world, and perhaps his
> long-suffering wife.

From: Jim on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

> >> No Web forum I've met has had a UI even close to the convenience of a
> >> good off-line newsreader.
> >>
> >> Not even with an order of magnitude close.
>
> Not to mention that he said "offline" "news" "reader". The nice thing
> about the web forums is that many of them now are so similar. There
> must be a standard UI for many of them, because I know what sort of
> things to expect when I visit one.

Although, on the other hand, the good thing about an offline newsreader
is that it _is_ offline. A dicky ADSL connection can make you quite
happy about that.

Jim
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From: James Jolley on
On 2010-04-18 11:26:25 +0100, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) said:

> James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:
>
>>>> No Web forum I've met has had a UI even close to the convenience of a
>>>> good off-line newsreader.
>>>>
>>>> Not even with an order of magnitude close.
>>
>> Not to mention that he said "offline" "news" "reader". The nice thing
>> about the web forums is that many of them now are so similar. There
>> must be a standard UI for many of them, because I know what sort of
>> things to expect when I visit one.
>
> Although, on the other hand, the good thing about an offline newsreader
> is that it _is_ offline. A dicky ADSL connection can make you quite
> happy about that.
>
> Jim

Suppose so. I'm not addicted to the internet though, not suggesting you
are but if you can't get news for a hour or so then fair enough.

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