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From: Jonathan Kirwan on 8 Nov 2006 16:26 On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:03:21 -0800, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: ><snip> >Here is a quip from Franklin on August 7th, 1787... ><snip> Actually, it was on the 10th. The other quotes were from the prior three days. Jon
From: T Wake on 8 Nov 2006 16:29 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eiskun$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <eiq575$qnu$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <eiprjo$8ss_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>>> >>>>>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>>>>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>>>>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>>>>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>>>>became a right instead of a benefit. >>>>> >>>>>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>>>>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>>>>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>>>>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>>>>who need these services will have to go to another country >>>>>whose medical infrastructure will provide. >>>> >>>>Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>>>care. >>>>Care to explain why? >>> >>>Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>>by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>>monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>>and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >> >>What? The people who fill out paperwork at insurance companies? No way. >>Unions have few such clerical workers as members. > > Workers are those who do the actual delivery of service...the ones > that count. So the clerical workers aren't workers then? Are you posting this from 1886? >> >>>All access to medical help is done through insurance company >>>doors. >> >>These people are going to India because (1) they don't have insurance and >>American medicine costs too much, or (2) their insurance won't cover what > they >>need to have done. > > Especially the second reason. That is a harbinger of what will > happen if the system becomes a national entity run by the > government bureaucracies. Really? How do you work that out? <snip>
From: Eeyore on 8 Nov 2006 16:39 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > Don Rumsfeld, cut from the same inflexible, unthinking and unlistening, "my > way or the highway" mold, has now stepped aside. Do you think it was his decision entirely or was he nudged or even pushed ? Graham
From: lucasea on 8 Nov 2006 16:40 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eiskun$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <eiq575$qnu$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <eiprjo$8ss_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>>> >>>>>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>>>>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>>>>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>>>>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>>>>became a right instead of a benefit. >>>>> >>>>>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>>>>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>>>>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>>>>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>>>>who need these services will have to go to another country >>>>>whose medical infrastructure will provide. >>>> >>>>Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>>>care. >>>>Care to explain why? >>> >>>Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>>by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>>monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>>and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >> >>What? The people who fill out paperwork at insurance companies? No way. >>Unions have few such clerical workers as members. > > Workers are those who do the actual delivery of service...the ones > that count. >> >>>All access to medical help is done through insurance company >>>doors. >> >>These people are going to India because (1) they don't have insurance and >>American medicine costs too much, or (2) their insurance won't cover what > they >>need to have done. > > Especially the second reason. That is a harbinger of what will > happen if the system becomes a national entity run by the > government bureaucracies. The medical field is unique in that > all of its business is personal. Managing what has to be > small business relationships and models with a corporate umbrella > can't work well. And the first reason is going to become ubiquitous as industry is less and less willing to pay for the health care of its employees. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 8 Nov 2006 16:46
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45524E78.3FAE17D0(a)hotmail.com... > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> Don Rumsfeld, cut from the same inflexible, unthinking and unlistening, >> "my >> way or the highway" mold, has now stepped aside. > > Do you think it was his decision entirely or was he nudged or even pushed > ? Oh, I'm quite certain he was pushed. You can see it on Rumsfeld's face. I think Bush saw the writing on the wall, that he would probably have to let Rumsfeld go at some point, and decided to cut bait now while he has a remote chance of having an even minimally friendly Congress for the new guy's confirmation hearings. From what little I've read, however, the new guy is probably a pretty good choice, given his actual desire and ability to work with other people, and not think he can run the whole show himself. Eric Lucas |