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From: T Wake on 8 Nov 2006 16:55 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eisl7r$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45509E5D.4D41A4DD(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>> >>> >Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>> >care. >>> >Care to explain why? >>> >>> Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>> by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>> monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>> and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >>> All access to medical help is done through insurance company >>> doors. Doctors are no longer small business[wo]men and the business >>> is no longer a local business. >> >>Now would you care to explain why ppl are going to Indai for medical care >>? > > Because the decisions of treatment is no longer done at the > doctor-patient level; this is a small business model. AT > the moment these decisions are at the corporate levels and > are not working. If you raise the heirarchy to a national > government level, it is guaranteed that medical treatment > decisions will always be "wrong" from the POV of the receiver > of the treatments. It isn't guaranteed at all. The NHS model, while far from perfect, does not suffer from this. <snip>
From: unsettled on 8 Nov 2006 16:58 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45524591.4A629FE7(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>> >>>>>I object because they're not heavy industry. >>>> >>>>Agreed. We've evolved into a country that only knows how to invent >>>>better >>>>and better ways to serve each other hamburgers. We're now a heavily >>>>service-based economy...it's been getting worse and worse since about >>>>1945, >>>>and what comes next can't be good. >>> >>>We need a broad based mix of business types. >> >>JHC ! >> >>It said something sensible ! > > > Yes, I was amazed. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, by > sheer chance. As you did in this case.
From: T Wake on 8 Nov 2006 17:09 <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:yzp4h.7066$9v5.6556(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:e81a6$4551f94f$4fe75b2$14650(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> In article <MPG.1fb90e071de0287c989aa6(a)news.individual.net>, >>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>> >>>>In article <454F423C.3B207DEE(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>The days of inheriting a bicycle shop that grew into >>>>>>>an airframe manufacturing enterprise are gone. >>>>>> >>>>>>No, it's not. >>>>> >>>>>Do please supply an appropriate example. >>>> >>>>Hewlett Packard, Apple, Mc$hit, Dell... Who knows where the next one >>>>will pop up. >>>> >>> >>> >>> He'll object to that because they're too old. Google, E-bay, >>> Vehix(sp?). I can imagine a day where you login to General >>> Motors and fill out the specs for the car you want and have >>> it delivered in n days. I'd like to see this done with books ;-). >>> IOW, mass production will become blase for anything other than >>> computer equipment :-))). >> >> I object because they're not heavy industry. > > > Agreed. We've evolved into a country that only knows how to invent better > and better ways to serve each other hamburgers. We're now a heavily > service-based economy...it's been getting worse and worse since about > 1945, and what comes next can't be good. Most of the west has evolved into a service based industry. As people become more educated they seem more reluctant to "graft" for a living....
From: unsettled on 8 Nov 2006 17:24 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:yzp4h.7066$9v5.6556(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > >>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>news:e81a6$4551f94f$4fe75b2$14650(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <MPG.1fb90e071de0287c989aa6(a)news.individual.net>, >>>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <454F423C.3B207DEE(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The days of inheriting a bicycle shop that grew into >>>>>>>>an airframe manufacturing enterprise are gone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, it's not. >>>>>> >>>>>>Do please supply an appropriate example. >>>>> >>>>>Hewlett Packard, Apple, Mc$hit, Dell... Who knows where the next one >>>>>will pop up. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>He'll object to that because they're too old. Google, E-bay, >>>>Vehix(sp?). I can imagine a day where you login to General >>>>Motors and fill out the specs for the car you want and have >>>>it delivered in n days. I'd like to see this done with books ;-). >>>>IOW, mass production will become blase for anything other than >>>>computer equipment :-))). >>> >>>I object because they're not heavy industry. >> >> >>Agreed. We've evolved into a country that only knows how to invent better >>and better ways to serve each other hamburgers. We're now a heavily >>service-based economy...it's been getting worse and worse since about >>1945, and what comes next can't be good. > > > Most of the west has evolved into a service based industry. As people become > more educated they seem more reluctant to "graft" for a living.... You would do well if you ever got a grip on the meaning of "education." What you're talking about, and have very obviously experienced, is extensive training. That equates to being a member of the half-washed masses.
From: T Wake on 8 Nov 2006 17:27
"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message news:rri4l2ljpe93g7ro2qj1v15gv4dgqq0gd7(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:03:21 -0800, Jonathan Kirwan > <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: > >><snip> >>Here is a quip from Franklin on August 7th, 1787... >><snip> > > Actually, it was on the 10th. The other quotes were from the prior > three days. Well written posts. Thank you. |