From: John Fields on
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:01:39 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

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>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
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>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> In addition, people burn the wood that is laced with arsenic.
>> >
>> >What kind of wood is laced with arsenic ?
>>
>> Any wood you want to prevent termintes from eating.
>
>I see.
>
>Luckily we don't have that problem here. We do get wood rot though. !

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Yes, I've noticed that from your posts.


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JF
From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> T Wake wrote:
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>> The Patriot Act was not a "Good Thing(tm)."
>
> It's also a fabulous example of Orwellian style doublespeak.

Sadly.

Very common nowadays. Shame poor old George didn't call his book 2008.....


From: lucasea on

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <45531D87.D2766E37(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Islamic societies are based on law. It is a law which uses the Koran
>>>> >as
>> its
>>>> >guide rather than the Bible but it is still law.
>>>>
>>>> And that law is currently being interpreted so that all people
>>>> who are not Muslim must be killed.
>>>
>>>No it's not. That is a complete fallacy.
>>
>> You haven't been listening to the extremists, then.
>>
>> I did not say that *all* of Islam has this interpretation.
>
> The conversation was about Islamic societies not about extremist factions,
> which are by definition a minority.
>
> There are Right Wing Christian groups who espouse all non-Christians
> should be killed. Does that mean Christian societies have that law?
>
> Do Christian moderates crumble under the pressure of Christian extremists
> or is that just something Islamic moderates do?
>
>> It doesn't, yet. But it's only a matter of years before
>> extremists of all kinds will have weapons that can interrupt
>> and destroy the world's trade.
>
> Nonsense. You have little understanding of the "robust" nature of trade.
> It is a centre point of all human history.
>
>> Do you want to prevent this mess from happening or wait until
>> it's in your lap. If you choose the latter, not only will
>> you have the work to clean up the mess, you will also have
>> additional work of trying to prevent it from happening again--
>> which will be impossible.
>
> You have invented a "mess" then you demand people prevent it. Amazing.

Don Quixote is alive and well.

Eric Lucas


From: T Wake on

<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> The Patriot Act was not a "Good Thing(tm)."
>>
>> It's also a fabulous example of Orwellian style doublespeak.
>
> Something I've always wondered.... Orwell was English, right? Was "1984"
> a cautionary tale against what he saw happening in England after WWII
> ("Ingsoc")? If so, it's interesting that US society has in some ways come
> a lot closer to Big Brother than I am given to understand UK society has.

The UK is definitely along that road. CCTV coverage in cities is nearly
total. We are about to introduce a national ID card (unthinkable for British
people who traditionally have never needed that, nor even need a passport to
leave the country), our "left wing" government has tried to introduce trial
without jury, the police can stop and search on the most tenuous basis, if
you are even slightly suspected of a "terrorist" related offence you can be
detained for days without legal counsel (etc.).

As for 1984 - IIRC Eric Blair (Orwell's real name) was rabidly
anti-Communist and was writing to highlight the dangers posed by
totalitarian governments.

It is interesting that two democratic governenments which were handed almost
total control by the people rapidly adopted the things Orwell dreaded.

I wish, when I was younger, I had properly appreciated the skill with which
he wrote. He is a much better social commentator than Shakespeare!


From: T Wake on

<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>>> I also am aware that it seems every
>>> leader of every Muslim country in Africa and the Middle
>>> East have delusions of running the Islam Empire.
>>
>> Where do you draw that conclusion from? How is this different from
>> Western leaders who want to spread satellite democracies in their own
>> image across the globe?
>
> We don't know anybody like *that*...do we??

Subtlety will work eventually :-)