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From: Eeyore on 9 Nov 2006 20:32 John Larkin wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> >> > >> >> > These people came from an economic system where the only property > >> >> > owners (I think) were farms. The only people who knew how to > >> >> > make things go were property owners. When the above people envisioned > >> >> > the manufacturing and industrial revolution, did they also anticipate > >> >> > where people would only own 1/8 acre with a hut on it? > >> >> > >> >> You mean like all of the people in Europe who lived in the cities already > >> >> had? > >> > > >> >I'll bet my place here has a lot less than 1/8 of an acre ! > >> > >> --- > >> I'll bet it does too. > >> > >> 1/8 acre is 5445 square feet. > >> > >> So how big is your lot > > > >I'll have to estimate that one. About 18' wide by 90 so 1620 sq ft. > > > > > >> and how big is your hovel? > > > >About 1000 sq ft. A slightly larger than average Victorian end terrace house. > > > >Graham > > The standard lot size in most of San Francisco is 24' wide by about > 120' deep, which ours is. About half of that depth is house and half > is garden. The only way to get more living space is to add floors, > which in our case involved excavating the side of a mountain. You can > walk from one end of a block to the other on the roofs. > > And the only way to do construction or gardening in the back yard is > to haul everything through the house, down a flight of stairs (try a > couple of tons of Allen blocks!) It's fun to watch people removing > dead trees from their back yards. Thankfully I do have my own side alley ( the advantage of being at the end of a terrace ). I reckon the smaller houses in the street have a frontage of under 12 ft. Graham
From: Spehro Pefhany on 9 Nov 2006 21:14 On Thu, 09 Nov 06 13:28:27 GMT, the renowned lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <eivcit$8qk_019(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <X8s4h.10931$r12.9903(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eiskun$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <eiq575$qnu$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>In article <eiprjo$8ss_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>>>In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>>>>>>>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>>>>>>>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>>>>>>>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>>>>>>>became a right instead of a benefit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>>>>>>>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>>>>>>>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>>>>>>>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>>>>>>>who need these services will have to go to another country >>>>>>>>whose medical infrastructure will provide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>>>>>>care. >>>>>>>Care to explain why? >>>>>> >>>>>>Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>>>>>by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>>>>>monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>>>>>and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >>>>> >>>>>What? The people who fill out paperwork at insurance companies? No way. >>>>>Unions have few such clerical workers as members. >>>> >>>> Workers are those who do the actual delivery of service...the ones >>>> that count. >>>>> >>>>>>All access to medical help is done through insurance company >>>>>>doors. >>>>> >>>>>These people are going to India because (1) they don't have insurance and >>>>>American medicine costs too much, or (2) their insurance won't cover what >>>> they >>>>>need to have done. >>>> >>>> Especially the second reason. That is a harbinger of what will >>>> happen if the system becomes a national entity run by the >>>> government bureaucracies. The medical field is unique in that >>>> all of its business is personal. Managing what has to be >>>> small business relationships and models with a corporate umbrella >>>> can't work well. >>> >>>And the first reason is going to become ubiquitous as industry is less and >>>less willing to pay for the health care of its employees. >> >>Industry can't afford it. > >Which is why the cost should be spread over the entire population, as it is >done in Europe and Canada. Australia, Taiwan, Israel, etc. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: lucasea on 9 Nov 2006 21:16 "Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message news:28d7l29uofp8nriijbl2h4mvntbaqrvei4(a)4ax.com... > >> <...> the police can stop and search on the most tenuous basis, if >>you are even slightly suspected of a "terrorist" related offence you can >>be >>detained for days without legal counsel (etc.). > > They wouldn't do that in the USA would they? Ah no, they do it in Cuba > instead and pretend it's the USA. Unless it is more convenient to say > it's Cuba, of course. And it's years there, not days... I remember once in college, about 25 years ago, the cops pulled me over late one night well outside of town, asked to see my driver's license and registration, shone his flashlight into the back seat of my car, then said "Sorry, we're looking for a car like yours that was involved in a crime." Sounded pretty flimsy to me--either they didn't like the look of me, thought I was drunk, etc. I checked the newspaper the next day--no crime was listed that could possibly have been what he was talking about. I was slightly annoyed, but if the police want to come up with some reason to stop you and question you, they will, no matter what the rules. I would have been a helluva lot more annoyed if he'd asked to search my car...but then I would have gotten belligerent and demanded a warrant. Eric Lucas
From: JoeBloe on 9 Nov 2006 21:30 On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 04:48:46 -0800, xray <notreally(a)hotmail.invalid> Gave us: >On Thu, 09 Nov 06 12:31:21 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>I don't how strategy work gets done, but Bush does have a coherent >>policy. > >That's a joke right? No, but you are.
From: JoeBloe on 9 Nov 2006 21:32
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:40:12 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > >"xray" <notreally(a)hotmail.invalid> wrote in message >news:k9u5l2tn644sntciap2sbagjmb5fabq2bl(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:44:20 +0000, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>>> However, the Republican Party >>>> platform is more apt to provide for economic growth. >>> >>>Since when was a huge and increasing foreign debt the model for economic >>>growth ? >>> >> >> Foreign debt? That's so 80's and 90's. We started this war to try to >> make our own internal debt far outshine our foreign debts. >> >> Of course, since we no longer make a large portion of the stuff we are >> using in the war, you might still have a point. > >Ya think? > Name a foreign part in the M1 Abrams. |