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From: Ben Newsam on 15 Nov 2006 19:11 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:17:53 -0800, Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote: >I'd rather have a new MG, but they are not importing to the US yet. Me too. I knew someone who owned a red TC that was just beautiful. It had been restored almost back to mint condition, and just needed the main wiring loom to be put back. Her husband was out in the garage doing the work while she and I supped G&Ts in the kitchen. Suddenly, he came back in with his face as white as a sheet. "What's wrong? What's the matter?" she asked, really worried. "It was only a small fire, but it's out now", he said. Phew. Phew indeed. Because I remember another time, in the paved and walled yard of a small hotel over the road from where I lived, there was an old Hillman or something like that from the 1950s, and a bloke had gradually restored it over the course of about six months. Came the great day when it was finished, all gleaming and polished, and I leaned out of the window to watch. He switched on the ignition, and smoke came out of the bonnet. Shortly after there were flames, and about 30 seconds later the whole car was ablaze. "Shall I call the fire brigade then?" I asked. All he could do was sort of nod feebly, with his mouth open. Poor chap.
From: Eeyore on 15 Nov 2006 20:22 krw wrote: > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > > > > What does a phone line cost btw ? > > > > > > When I got rid of them they were about $48/mo each. > > > > That's very expensive. Does that include any calls ? > > It's been at least three years since I canceled the last POTS line, > so I may be a little off. The tariff went something like: > > $28/mo basic service > $.022 per minute 6AM to 9PM > $.005 per minute 9PM to 6AM > > $10 per minute charges calls forgiven > $18 max on per minute charges > Plus taxes, fees, Spanish-American war debt... > > The per minute fees were maxed every month. Ok, well here it's the equivalent of $20 'line rental' as we call it. To be honest I forget how the call charges work out, they're a bit more than yours but some calls are free. I don't use it so intensively that I run up a large bill.. I need a BT line to get ADSL. I do have a cable connection too but the local cable provider isn't that great and their prices aren't very competitive either so ADSL it is. Graham
From: Eeyore on 15 Nov 2006 20:23 krw wrote: > Plus taxes, fees, Spanish-American war debt... What fees btw ? The war debt is a joke I presume ? Graham
From: Jamie on 15 Nov 2006 20:25 Eeyore wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >><lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >>>Well, Eeyore, this would belie the assertion that she lives too far from a >>>population center to get decent DSL. >> >>I live in a town. There is no DSL line strung. >>You people are starting to get really annoying. > > > DSL comes down an ordinary telephone line ! > > Graham > really. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
From: Don Bowey on 15 Nov 2006 20:27
On 11/15/06 4:11 PM, in article 93461$455ba9e7$4fe75f7$21090(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > Jonathan Kirwan angrily proclaims: > > snip > >> The specific case should not have happened. Imperfect as humans may >> be admitted as being, this particular case is a simple failure that >> didn't even have to happen and wouldn't have, in other existing >> systems in place and operating already, today. > >> Excusing the specifics by moving to a useless extreme that applies to >> anything and says nothing doesn't help us progress at all. > > Fact remains we'll never achieve zero defects. > > As I said before, I empathize. The reality is terrible > things can happen to any of us. In your case it was > a close call, too close for comfort. There was, fortunately, > enough of a failsafe system in place to overcome stupidity, > which has no cure. > > Try talking to Lucas, Eeyore, and Wake about whether ^ and Bowey > or not the woman denying service to your brother should > have been in that position. Their Marxist socialist > humanism would have given her the opportunity to hold > down that job and given her raises because human beings > should be paid "a living wage." That's a really bad lapse of both knowledge and logic. In their credo there exists: To each according to their ability; to each according to their need. There is nothing to say that indifference, ineptitude, or ignorance would or should be acceptable. The woman should not have been employed as she was, and neither should her manager. What happened is absolutely inexcusable. > > The reasons we'll never achieve zero defects regardless > of whatever system is in place are obvious. You're not > going to be able to replace the people who run > services with anything that functions better. So long > as you depend on people, mistakes will be made. The major element in a zero-defect objective is that people must be committed to it and believe it can be done. Without the commitment it's easy to compromise in favor of individual comfort zones. In areas of health and safety there can be no compromises. I would not permit you to be on one of my teams at any pay level. You should seek employment in very shallow ditch digging, for which the pay level may be at your level of ability. > > See also Murphy's Law. Why? > > > snip > You are an illogical chap, and like to insert wild assertions in attempts to make your point. Put this in a fortune cookie and chew on it. Don |