From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4559CA33.C4F05D8B(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >$30 a month is massively expensive for USENET.
>>>
>>> I don't think so. The service provided was 7x24, never down
>>> and the people knew what was going whenever something odd
>>> was happening. When I said I got what I paid for, I meant
>>> that the service was superb, timely, and absent of all bullshit.
>>
>>I pay $2.95 for news access and it seems just fine too. 24/7 is the norm.
>
> When I bought the service DOS 6.0 and Win 3.11 was the usual
> ISP software run. These guys were running Unix on Alphas. If
> there was a glitch on my end, I could call their help line, ask
> the guy if the systems were up. He would yell across his office
> wall if there were any problems and get an immediate answer.
>
> There wree no 500-Q&A sales mazes to go through before getting
> my question answered. That was worth $30/month for not spending
> my time on bullshit.

For a computer programmer you seem to like "dark age" technology.

I am not in IT by trade but I am sufficiently IT literate to have never had
any problems setting up and running a WiFi network which connects to ADSL. I
can access the internet from any room in the house (laptop, desktop or PDA)
and it all costs me ?20 per month. Shame you pay so much for so little
because you fear the unknown.


From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >$30 a month is massively expensive for USENET.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think so. The service provided was 7x24, never down
>> >> and the people knew what was going whenever something odd
>> >> was happening. When I said I got what I paid for, I meant
>> >> that the service was superb, timely, and absent of all bullshit.
>> >
>> >I pay $2.95 for news access and it seems just fine too. 24/7 is the
>> >norm.
>>
>> When I bought the service DOS 6.0 and Win 3.11 was the usual
>> ISP software run. These guys were running Unix on Alphas. If
>> there was a glitch on my end, I could call their help line, ask
>> the guy if the systems were up. He would yell across his office
>> wall if there were any problems and get an immediate answer.
>
> I pretty much get that from my ISP too.
>
>
>> There wree no 500-Q&A sales mazes to go through before getting
>> my question answered. That was worth $30/month for not spending
>> my time on bullshit.
>
> I don't have that problem either. I'm paying ?17.99 p.c.m. but that is for
> an
> 8Mbps connection.
>

I may have to jump ship :-)


From: T Wake on

"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:03:41 +0000, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The 8M is the sync speed. I've actually transferred data at about 6.5Mbps
>>max in
>>practice.
>
> It is also contended, so you have to fight for that bandwidth with
> whoever else is sharing it.

Depending where you live this is a greater or lesser problem. Currently I
seem to be the only person on my exchange...


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4559C9DC.3A55227D(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >How much do you pay for your dial-up connection ?
>>> >>
>>> >> I have two. For the newsgroup access, I used to pay $30/month.
>>> >> I definitely got what I paid for.
>>> >>
>>> >> Then it got bought out and the priced was reduced; as a result,
>>> >> I also got what I paid for :-((.
>>> >
>>> >Over here you can get an ADSL connection for ?12.99 a month.
>>>
>>> I can get connection for $5/month if I wish a lack of service.
>>
>>What do you mean by 'lack of service' ?
>>
>>Is this more negative thinkiong ?
>
> No. I'm quite fussy since I was in the computer biz.
> If there's problem, I'd like to be able to analyze and
> produce are reason for the problem within 10 minutes.
> I can't do that if I have to go through the usual help
> desk sales menu before dealing with the problem. I also
> want to talk with somebody who can touch the computer systems
> rather than a desk in India.

So what you mean is, because your computer knowledge stagnated thirty years
ago you don't want to learn how to problem solve modern technology?


From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> I don't want bells and whistles. I want pure, unadulterated
>> >> comm service. All the fluff is a waste of CPU cycles and my
>> >> time.
>> >
>> >Yet you can not access the web. Not really a working communications
>> >service,
>> >is it?
>>
>> I run software on my computer that cannot salivate and chew gum at
>> the same time. As a result of this lack of computing ability,
>> it crashes because of buffer overruns.
>
> Do you have an aversion to upgrading ?
>
> Ppl are giving away lower end Pentiums now !
>
> There's an auction on ebay uk that ends in 5 hours for no less that *five*
> Pentium 600 PCs - ok they've had the hard drives and memory removed but
> these are
> inexpensively replaced and the current high bid is......
>
> 99 pence ! for five computers
>
> Graham
>