From: Robert Latest on
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:30:59 -0700,
John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
in Msg. <35j2i2lq62eh8kg54680jkjbqu3ikc82pr(a)4ax.com>

>>My feeling is that if American Muslims can't/won't be outspoken
>>against their extremist brothers, in an out-and-out world blow-up
>>they'll be rounded up into camps just like the Japanese-Americans in
>>WWII... deservedly... "silence implies consent" (Sir Thomas More).
>
> The only people who should be "rounded up" are people who commit
> crimes.

The rounding up of people who haven't been convicted of any crime has
already started five years ago. See "Guantanamo Bay" and "CIA prisons".

robert
From: Robert Latest on
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:20:21 -0700,
John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
in Msg. <hu33i2tqjfg6nfvg8d5o1krhaq0lr1umhi(a)4ax.com>

> The issue is whether non-US-citizens have Constitutional rights when
> they are not physically in the USA, or whether US citizens have such
> rights when captured in a foreign country while fighting against our
> military.

The issue is not if they have Constitutional rights, but wether they
have any rights at all.

robert
From: Eeyore on


lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote
> > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:04:06 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >>JoeBloe wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore Gave us:
> >>>
> >>> > but the *SMALLEST* among developed countries as a
> >>> >percentage of its GDP
> >>>
> >>> Whoopie fuckin doo. That proves that we are a prosperous nation and
> >>> we still beat everyone else on the tab.
> >>
> >>No. It proves you're shallow.
> >
> > ---
> > No, it doesn't.
> >
> > If we gave much more it would make everyone else's contribution look
> > so small that they'd figure it was OK to abrogate their
> > responsibility and they'd give even less. Or nothing at all.
>
> Now there's a BS rationalization if I've ever heard one!

Europe's combined aid makes US aid look tiny anyway. There's simply no basis
for his idea in fact.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:32:57 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:58:41 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:21:16 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >> >> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms "
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >See my post on this point.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger
> >> >> >> >from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Graham
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Upper hand? What does Europe plan to do about the exponents of
> >> >> >> population growth, negative for the traditional population and
> >> >> >> positive for Islamic immigrants?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So, you're worried about a hypothetical something in maybe 1000 yrs ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Has it ever ocurred to you that most European Muslims don't want to live like backward
> >> >> >tribesppl ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Graham
> >> >>
> >> >> Has it occurred to you that there are different perspectives on
> >> >> "backward"? No, I guess not.
> >> >
> >> >Has it occurred to you to ask any Muslims ?
> >> >
> >> >Graham
> >>
> >> There's one two doors down from me at this instant, and I talk to him
> >> about stuff like this all the time.
> >>
> >> So, "yes."
> >
> >I thought that might be the case. So what does he say ?
> >
> >Graham
>
> that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, except that the
> Shiites are insane.

Ask him about the Muslim Brotherhood and the Wahabis/Salafis and the extent of their influence.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:00:17 +0100, "T Wake"
> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
> >news:grs2i25e29m02qt6takp6sfpoi0snt838s(a)4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:56:34 +0100, "T Wake"
> >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:45214B1B.7A9DD9AD(a)earthlink.net...
> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've seen very few French tourists here in AZ... probably because
> >>>>> they'd be shunned ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The ones I've met in Florida were quite rude, and about as ignorant
> >>>> as the donkey. They think we owe them a huge favor because they came
> >>>> here to harass us. :(
> >>>
> >>>All French people are rude. That is why no one likes them. Even the French
> >>>don't like themselves.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I drove around France for six weeks once. The people in cities were
> >> often rude, and the people in small towns and in the countryside were
> >> almost always cheerful and friendly. In the US, I find city and
> >> country people mostly friendly, without a big difference.
> >
> >Oddly, I agree. I often visit the US and invariably people are polite and
> >friendly. I avoid rural France for fear of the Guillotine...
> >
> >> I think the rudest place I've been was Moscow... glories of Socialism
> >> and all that.
> >
> >Not been to Moscow, most Former Soviet countries tend to be quite polite
> >though. Maybe the Russians took the breakdown worse than the rest...
> >
>
> I spent a month in Moscow towards the end of the Breshnev regime,
> while it was still the USSR. I have friends there (my friend Sergei
> owns the biggest independent automatic transmission repair operation
> in Russia, I think) and they say things are a lot better lately. I
> have no desire to go back.
>
> The Russians don't understand queues. If there's a cash register,
> everybody crowds around and pushes in. When a elevator opens,
> everybody outside rushes in from all directions and everybody inside
> pushes their way out, all at the same time.

Just like India.

Graham