From: Robert Latest on 4 Oct 2006 04:58 ["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.] On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:30:59 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Msg. <35j2i2lq62eh8kg54680jkjbqu3ikc82pr(a)4ax.com> >>My feeling is that if American Muslims can't/won't be outspoken >>against their extremist brothers, in an out-and-out world blow-up >>they'll be rounded up into camps just like the Japanese-Americans in >>WWII... deservedly... "silence implies consent" (Sir Thomas More). > > The only people who should be "rounded up" are people who commit > crimes. The rounding up of people who haven't been convicted of any crime has already started five years ago. See "Guantanamo Bay" and "CIA prisons". robert
From: Robert Latest on 4 Oct 2006 05:01 ["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.] On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:20:21 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Msg. <hu33i2tqjfg6nfvg8d5o1krhaq0lr1umhi(a)4ax.com> > The issue is whether non-US-citizens have Constitutional rights when > they are not physically in the USA, or whether US citizens have such > rights when captured in a foreign country while fighting against our > military. The issue is not if they have Constitutional rights, but wether they have any rights at all. robert
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 05:30 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote > > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:04:06 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >>JoeBloe wrote: > >>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore Gave us: > >>> > >>> > but the *SMALLEST* among developed countries as a > >>> >percentage of its GDP > >>> > >>> Whoopie fuckin doo. That proves that we are a prosperous nation and > >>> we still beat everyone else on the tab. > >> > >>No. It proves you're shallow. > > > > --- > > No, it doesn't. > > > > If we gave much more it would make everyone else's contribution look > > so small that they'd figure it was OK to abrogate their > > responsibility and they'd give even less. Or nothing at all. > > Now there's a BS rationalization if I've ever heard one! Europe's combined aid makes US aid look tiny anyway. There's simply no basis for his idea in fact. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 05:37 John Larkin wrote: > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:32:57 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:58:41 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:21:16 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >> >John Larkin wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> >" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms " > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >See my post on this point. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger > >> >> >> >from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Graham > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Upper hand? What does Europe plan to do about the exponents of > >> >> >> population growth, negative for the traditional population and > >> >> >> positive for Islamic immigrants? > >> >> > > >> >> >So, you're worried about a hypothetical something in maybe 1000 yrs ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Has it ever ocurred to you that most European Muslims don't want to live like backward > >> >> >tribesppl ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Graham > >> >> > >> >> Has it occurred to you that there are different perspectives on > >> >> "backward"? No, I guess not. > >> > > >> >Has it occurred to you to ask any Muslims ? > >> > > >> >Graham > >> > >> There's one two doors down from me at this instant, and I talk to him > >> about stuff like this all the time. > >> > >> So, "yes." > > > >I thought that might be the case. So what does he say ? > > > >Graham > > that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, except that the > Shiites are insane. Ask him about the Muslim Brotherhood and the Wahabis/Salafis and the extent of their influence. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 05:39
John Larkin wrote: > On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:00:17 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > > > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message > >news:grs2i25e29m02qt6takp6sfpoi0snt838s(a)4ax.com... > >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:56:34 +0100, "T Wake" > >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > >>>news:45214B1B.7A9DD9AD(a)earthlink.net... > >>>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I've seen very few French tourists here in AZ... probably because > >>>>> they'd be shunned ;-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The ones I've met in Florida were quite rude, and about as ignorant > >>>> as the donkey. They think we owe them a huge favor because they came > >>>> here to harass us. :( > >>> > >>>All French people are rude. That is why no one likes them. Even the French > >>>don't like themselves. > >>> > >> > >> I drove around France for six weeks once. The people in cities were > >> often rude, and the people in small towns and in the countryside were > >> almost always cheerful and friendly. In the US, I find city and > >> country people mostly friendly, without a big difference. > > > >Oddly, I agree. I often visit the US and invariably people are polite and > >friendly. I avoid rural France for fear of the Guillotine... > > > >> I think the rudest place I've been was Moscow... glories of Socialism > >> and all that. > > > >Not been to Moscow, most Former Soviet countries tend to be quite polite > >though. Maybe the Russians took the breakdown worse than the rest... > > > > I spent a month in Moscow towards the end of the Breshnev regime, > while it was still the USSR. I have friends there (my friend Sergei > owns the biggest independent automatic transmission repair operation > in Russia, I think) and they say things are a lot better lately. I > have no desire to go back. > > The Russians don't understand queues. If there's a cash register, > everybody crowds around and pushes in. When a elevator opens, > everybody outside rushes in from all directions and everybody inside > pushes their way out, all at the same time. Just like India. Graham |